The Farm - Madison County, GA

[dtabor]

Their argument there is that it would unnaturally sustain deer that would normally be killed in winter screwing up the natural balance of things.

When Vermont's deer herd gets big enough to overtake the carrying capacity in my area of the state, then they can make that argument! Thats why I said education and then a permitting system for those that want to supplemental feed.

Sorry to have hijacked your thread. I will let it get back to your regularly scheduled posts!

 

[THE LLC]

LOL. I agree with you, just pointing out what "they" will say. I think I've seen four deer my entire life in Vermont.

 

[Triple C]

That being said, the jury is still out on feeding/baiting for me. They way I watched deer run to corn piles this season really didn't do much for me. I couldn't bring myself to shoot one over it.

Tommy - It was weird this year being able to hunt over bait/feed in N GA. Like you, I nor any of us shot a deer over the 3 feeding stations we kept filled. Just didn't seem right but that's prolly from never being able to hunt over bait in N GA my entire life until this year. In our cabin field, which is easily seen from the porch of the cabin, I have clover and a feeder and it has deer in it every day. Could easily sit on the front porch just before dark and shoot deer all season. That field is off limits to hunting.

 

[THE LLC]

To make it more of a challenge wait til dark and try it holding a light in one hand. LOLOLOLOL

 

[THE LLC]

Results from the fire in post #251.

 

[THE LLC]

Another post-burn picture from today. To have had as much rain as we have, this sure burned good.

 

[THE LLC]

One more. This was in an area I hinge-cut several years ago. Want to see this all grow up in broom sedge and other warm season grasses and forbs.

 

[Chainsaw]

It looks like when the fire went thru the hinge cut area, it didn't burn at least some of the hinged trees(top right of last picture). Is that normal? We have not ever seen a burn.

 

[THE LLC]

Correct. Burned it quick to burn up the duff but leave the structure. Most of those tops are still live, just haven't put on leaves yet. If I waited until the leaves were on, it would kill them. It did, however, kill the pine saplings which was part of the plan.

 

[THE LLC]

You see it?

 

[HB_Hunter]

Shed?

 

[dogghr]

How do you ignite your burns? Do you do a back burn first? All looks good. Monster shed.

 

[THE LLC]

Shed?
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Yep.

 

[THE LLC]

How do you ignite your burns? Do you do a back burn first? All looks good. Monster shed.

Always do an down-wind back burn until I can get about 20 feet back burned then work down the perimeter and ignite the up-wind side last. Backburn any corners or points that a with-the-wind fire could get into and accelerate even more. We always burn downhill first as well to set up black breaks. Here's a diagram of the last burn I did showing what I mean.

 

[dogghr]

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Always do an down-wind back burn until I can get about 20 feet back burned then work down the perimeter and ignite the up-wind side last. Backburn any corners or points that a with-the-wind fire could get into and accelerate even more. We always burn downhill first as well to set up black breaks. Here's a diagram of the last burn I did showing what I mean.

Of all the burn posts I've read over the years that is one of the best descriptions ever. Loved the drawing, really helps my ADD. Now all I need is give you my address so you can go do said burns. Thanks for showing.

 

[THE LLC]

Absolutely. Love to burn. One of my buddies worked for the Georgia Forestry Commission and fought forest fires in Idaho and Montana so I have a good helper. Actually he's the fire boss.

 

[Triple C]

Tommy...Got a txt from Brooks yesterday saying that GFC called him and is burning ours today. I'm traveling on biz so he's pulling fire duty today. Gonna be a long, long day and will be interesting to see if they can get it all burned. Bout 170 acres of pines to run fire through today. Can't wait for the updates when they start. This will be 4th burn in 29 yr old pine stand but the 1st burn in the 19 yr old stand. The 19 yr old stand is approx. 105 acres. Another 60 to 65 acres in the 29 yr old stand. Should be perfect conditions with a steady 5 to 8 mph WNW wind. With all the wind we've had since sunday, the ground fuel should be good n dry.

 

[pinetag]

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Always do an down-wind back burn until I can get about 20 feet back burned then work down the perimeter and ignite the up-wind side last. Backburn any corners or points that a with-the-wind fire could get into and accelerate even more. We always burn downhill first as well to set up black breaks. Here's a diagram of the last burn I did showing what I mean.

Great diagram LLC! I've never actually seen a controlled burn but I think I get the overall concept, however there are some things I don't completely comprehend. Like... even by starting with a backburn, isn't there still the possibility that embers could be carried on the wind and jump the firebreak, igniting an unplanned section of the woods? What about standing trees that are dead? Do you cut them down? Let them burn standing and if so, does that make it more complicated? Those of you that burn are braver than me! Maybe one day...

 

[THE LLC]

We cut any snags and dead trees prior to burning and during mop up make sure there aren't any burning logs, etc that could roll across the breaks. As far as the backburn jumping the breaks, I'm sure anything is possible but by burning into the wind and good breaks at least 8 feet wide I don't see how---unless you're doing something really stupid like burning in real high winds or something. Generally a backing fire will have flame heights less than a foot tall and by burning into the wind, the flame tips are bent back toward areas already burned.

 

[THE LLC]

Here's a picture from a 2017 spring burn. The backing fire is in the foreground. In the distance you can see the head fire headed towards me. In this instance the head fire was burning DOWN hill as the wind was coming from that direction so even the head fire wasn't as intense as an uphill head fire would be.