One Straw Farm

[Baker]

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I have a new invader this year, yellow nutsedge from what I gather. Never had it on the property and don’t have any experience with it. I know people intentionally plant it for turkeys. How bad is it as an invasive? I understand that the normal herbicides won’t work on this sedge and that it mainly spreads from rhizomes. What have you guys found to be the best way to control it if you’ve gone down that road.


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You are not going to like yellow nutsedge. Its hard and expensive to control with herbicides if you have much of it. Over time you can change your soil structure which may help other preferred plants take over.

As an experiment in a 5 acre clover field that has a lot of sedge in it I planted a heavy dose of sunn hemp this summer. Just crimped it last week , added a ton of lime per acre and will plant in small grains and clover mid Sept. My 'hope' is the hemp crowded out the sedge along with the thatch from crimping and that the root structure from the hemp makes a difference.. I'll spray gly before planting. Strictly an experiment

 

[Hoosierhunting]

You are not going to like yellow nutsedge. Its hard and expensive to control with herbicides if you have much of it. Over time you can change your soil structure which may help other preferred plants take over.

As an experiment in a 5 acre clover field that has a lot of sedge in it I planted a heavy dose of sunn hemp this summer. Just crimped it last week , added a ton of lime per acre and will plant in small grains and clover mid Sept. My 'hope' is the hemp crowded out the sedge along with the thatch from crimping and that the root structure from the hemp makes a difference.. I'll spray gly before planting. Strictly an experiment

I’ll be interested to hear your results Rusty. Have you noticed a difference between no-till and tillage with respect to its prevelance? Just wondering if tillage disrupted the underground tubers at all?


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[cutman]

Yellow nutsedge is the worst. It is very similar to but not the same as chufa (which is what people plant for turkeys). Nothing eats it.

You can control it with Permit in corn, basagran, heavy doses of roundup at the right time, and a disk. It loves wet soil.

 

[Baker]

The wet soil is the challenge I deal with. That is one reason I am trying to increase OM and change the soil structure hoping to get better percolation . This has been a wet year and sedge has flourished. For what it is worth I have always had sedge in my clover fields and have just learned to live with it. Too much to go the herbicide route because of cost. Clover can still do well with the sedge assuming its not too thick..

Another thing I have to watch out for is mowing a field that may have sedge then moving to another filed as the seeds can get on the bush hog and travel creating problems in new fields.

 

[OkieKubota]

The wet soil is the challenge I deal with. That is one reason I am trying to increase OM and change the soil structure hoping to get better percolation . This has been a wet year and sedge has flourished. For what it is worth I have always had sedge in my clover fields and have just learned to live with it. Too much to go the herbicide route because of cost. Clover can still do well with the sedge assuming its not too thick..

Another thing I have to watch out for is mowing a field that may have sedge then moving to another filed as the seeds can get on the bush hog and travel creating problems in new fields.

Since I Brushhog commercially this is a problem for me as well. I try to hit the car wash as much as possible...

 

[Hoosierhunting]

Yellow nutsedge is the worst. It is very similar to but not the same as chufa (which is what people plant for turkeys). Nothing eats it.

You can control it with Permit in corn, basagran, heavy doses of roundup at the right time, and a disk. It loves wet soil.

Sheesh, I thought at least the turkeys will be happy but that sounds about right for me....something that is an expensive pain in the ass to get rid of and nothing eats it. Thanks for clarifying that it’s not the same as chufa.


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[swat1018]

Any had luck spraying clover with sedge in it with Imox? I just tried, mainly trying to get smart weed, but it's labeled for the sedge.

 

[dogghr]

Imox I sprayed in June took care of my Sedges. I wasn't chasing them, but just an added benefit.
I'm like Baker, plant management is more productive than chemicals in the long run. First thing I do is sit and ask why does a plant like this spot. Usually it involves our soil management from its manipulations to plantings to choice of chemicals , fertilizers, soil makeup and nutrients, and moisture control in monsoon and/or drought conditions. Answer those questions, and then a plan is more productive and less expensive and work and often eliminates or reduces the need for chemicals.

 

[Hoosierhunting]

Put down some dwarf Essex rape and purple top turnips today in the hidden plot. It’s a little 3 acre plot that I’d let go fallow for the last several years. I was planning to plant the whole thing for a late season plot but couldn’t bring myself to do it. I don’t have a lot of early successional habitat like this. Have some in the works but this was four years in. So I put some strips in and left as much of the Forbes and milkweed alone as I could.....I do love a Monarch.


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[Hoosierhunting]

Habitat work has been taking a back seat to this build, I’m calling it the Taj Mah Treehouse. It’s a work in progress
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I started by making these brackets and welding a stack of washers onto the stud bolts to make a boss. That’s my fancy spray booth in the front yard .

 

[Hoosierhunting]

I then drilled a 3” hole in the tree which accepts the boss and a 1-1/4” hole to accept the stud bolt. The brackets will then be fitted over the stud bolts. Take a look at this video with the sound turned all the way up. I drilled into a Chinese elm and it sounded like a jet engine.

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[Hoosierhunting]

The video doesn’t do it justice but you get the idea.


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[Hoosierhunting]

I used a jam nut and a pipe wrench to then thread the stud bolts into the undersized hole. They ain’t going anywhere. Then put the brackets on and rednecked a 6”x6”x20’ beam onto them



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[Hoosierhunting]

The plates on the brackets were drilled with four holes and the beam was fastened to the brackets. The brackets can moved on the stud bolts so as the tree grows you adjust the nut on either side and it won’t grow into the tree. Also, there’s a little play in the bracket/stud bolt fit so that as the two trees sway independently the structure isn’t rigid and absorbs movement. And yes I know how over built this thing is....it’s a disease if you know of a cure let me know.


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[Hoosierhunting]

Set a couple of 6”x6” post with the widow makers....aka the post hole diggers. Some day I’m going to pop for a three point post hole digger


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[Hoosierhunting]

Plumbed and braced them so I could pull a string line off the beam


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[Hoosierhunting]

Then pulled the posts back out so I could tenon them


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[Hoosierhunting]

Unfortunately most of the posts that size have some heartwood which makes for some grain orientation compromises


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[Hoosierhunting]

Cut the mortises (don’t judge it ain’t furniture ) and gave them a test fit


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[Hoosierhunting]

Then back to rednecking a 6”x6”x20’ beam in the air with the tractor. I generally like to work alone but could’ve used a hand here


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