2016 ACCF American Chestnut

[shedder]

Will the ACCF let you collect scions or is that restricted?

Lucille Griffin
allaccf@gmail.com
is the contact

 

[letemgrow]

One note of caution ... the chestnut blight can be transferred to oak trees (they are susceptible); consequently, if one has a lot of oak trees on his/her property you might want to plant Chinese chestnuts or the very popular Dunstan variety in order to ensure you don't put your oaks at risk. I admire those of you who are helping to attempt to create a blight-resistant American chestnut; however; I have too many oak trees to plant American chestnuts at this time. If your property has no oaks - and you don't expect to plant any in the future - then by all means plant American chestnuts and enjoy your efforts. Good luck!

It's my understanding that oaks carry it and chestnuts r going to get it either way.

The blight is already out there either way if American or Chinese r planted since oaks can carry blight. Planting Chinese does not make it go away, just they r resistant. If planting Chinese made a difference, we would be able to go back in 100 years later and replant American chestnuts after the blight was gone.

Do oaks die from chestnut blight or just oak blight?


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[Oakseeds]

ltg .... others
Probably one of the best discussions of chestnut blight can be reviewed at the site - "ChestnutBlightatMissouriBotanicalGardens" Google that phrase and you should get a very informative discussion of the history/characteristics of American chestnuts, including a discussion of the chestnut blight. They will tell you what other species - including white oak trees - can contract the chestnut blight (which is distinct from oak wilt). Hope it helps everyone's understanding so they can make informed decisions about growing American chestnut trees.

 

[Merle Hawggard]

Asian chestnut trees can also get chestnut blight, that's how it came to this country. They, for the most part, can live with it.

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[letemgrow]

ltg .... others
Probably one of the best discussions of chestnut blight can be reviewed at the site - "ChestnutBlightatMissouriBotanicalGardens" Google that phrase and you should get a very informative discussion of the history/characteristics of American chestnuts, including a discussion of the chestnut blight. They will tell you what other species - including white oak trees - can contract the chestnut blight (which is distinct from oak wilt). Hope it helps everyone's understanding so they can make informed decisions about growing American chestnut trees.

The blight would make it here regardless then (if not already). It has to be in the oaks all across the eastern us and there is nothing but air and opportunity for it to keep spreading west with all the oak trees from KS to VA for instance.

Merle is right also, the Asian trees carry it, they just do not die from it in most instances. The blight is here to stay till some biological action suppresses it.

It already killed off most of the ozark chinquapin in Arkansas so it's surely in the oaks there also in the ozarks.


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[DLH]

I agree with letemgrow the blight was brought over on a boat and spread throughout America. It doesn't matter which chestnuts you grow they are all affected by blight just happens the native ones here have almost no resistance. Even if someone didn't grow chestnuts the blight is still present. Also the chestnut blight isn't collapsing any oak populations anywhere or is it?

 

[shedder]

Do oaks die from chestnut blight or just oak blight?

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Scarlet oak is hit the worst and can be killed if I remember correctly.

 

[letemgrow]

Scarlet oak is hit the worst and can be killed if I remember correctly.

Good to know some oaks r hit harder than others that r more or less just carriers.

Scarlet must not be native to my area, never seen one of those.



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[possum]

Many people don't know this but even the Restoration 1.0 American Chestnut which is "blight resistant" will still get it, it just won't die from it... Hopefully!

 

[chestnut grandpa]

Many people don't know this but even the Restoration 1.0 American Chestnut which is "blight resistant" will still get it, it just won't die from it... Hopefully!

Only a very small % of the Restoration 1.0 trees will have good blight resistance, and even those trees will be less resistant than the Chinese.

 

[chestnut grandpa]

Many people don't know this but even the Restoration 1.0 American Chestnut which is "blight resistant" will still get it, it just won't die from it... Hopefully!

For the latest information on a blight resistant American chestnut go to these links. This tree developed by SUNY-ESF in Syracuse, with the support of TACF-NY is more blight resistant than the Chinese and is 99.997% pure American. Anyone wanting to help us restore the American chestnut contact me. fajknichols.75@gmail.com
Thanks, Allen Nichols
President, TACF-NY
http://video.wcny.org/video/2365485369/

https://theconversation.com/new-gen...-help-restore-the-decimated-iconic-tree-52191

 

[chestnut grandpa]

The blight would make it here regardless then (if not already). It has to be in the oaks all across the eastern us and there is nothing but air and opportunity for it to keep spreading west with all the oak trees from KS to VA for instance.

Merle is right also, the Asian trees carry it, they just do not die from it in most instances. The blight is here to stay till some biological action suppresses it.

It already killed off most of the ozark chinquapin in Arkansas so it's surely in the oaks there also in the ozarks.


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The OXO wheat gene that SUNY-ESF used to make the blight resistant American chestnut will also work to make the chinquapins blight resistant. As soon as we have gotten through the government approval process for the American chestnut, which costs about $300,000/year, the Alleghany and Ozark chinquapins are next on the list.

 

[cutman]

I know that Al Nipper and I have talked about donating profits from random forum fundraisers/ad revenue/decals/whatever to a worthy charity. Maybe helping to get these native trees reintroduced to the wild would be a worthy recipient of whatever small amount of money we can raise. I love the idea of "Deer Hunter Forum" contributing to improving our beloved whitetail habitat on a national scale.

 

[chestnut grandpa]

Anyone wanting to support this program can contribute to the SUNY-ESF fund at this link.
http://acf.donorshops.com/product/61055A1/biotechtreeresearch.php

At the present time, besides going through the government approval process, SUNY-ESF is working on establishing nut production orchards. They are looking for financing for fencing and irrigation.

 

[chestnut grandpa]

Finally got this file so I can upload it, I hope!!

 

[shedder]

I direct seeded 15 American Chestnut from the American Chestnut Cooperators' Foundation, last fall. I planted them last fall in a new clearcut. I didn't expect much since some 100 white, bur, shumard , chinkapin, red, black, swamp white oaks I planted are being hammered by voles. I started looking at the ACCF sites and was astonished that 90% were likely up. Why they are doing so well vs the oaks is opposite to what I expected. I don't expect it to last though. Voles and winter will likely get them yet.

https://goo.gl/photos/Zb3ZTDNKqaeG619A6

Pix of them. Some are small some are big.

My ACCF trees are 3yo. I regret not planting all I had since they have done the best, by far, of all I have tried. Several pushed 30 inches this year.

ACCF changed their policy and you have to pick your own or get a volunteer to do it now.

 

[letemgrow]

If anyone is collecting any ACCF seeds this year I’d like a stab at getting some more of them.


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[letemgrow]

Went back and checked that tree the other day and the deer put a hurting on it last year!


Had to run another tube up higher for further prevention.




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[letemgrow]

They are sitting in some really good soil. The farm has been under a monsoon lately and the soils are still easily worked and crumble back over the plantings...not much for clay here!!! The Northern reds are also growing like gang busters on this site and a good sign for future chestnut plantings.




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[Merle Hawggard]

Finally made it up and checked on my chestnut trees today. My biggest is from '09 chestnuts and roughly 28-30' tall.
It had one blight canker in 2011 that has slowly healed up while a sister tree 50' away was top killed the next summer.
The smaller tree is about 7' from 2015 seed that has a canker formed this year. My large tree was about this size when it had it's first attack so I'll have to watch it.
Last is another from 2015 the was top killed this year, but re-sprouted below.

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