good - then I will ask this question to you. Have you ever seen a hack n squirt operation, everything below 6” treated using Arsenal, kill 90% of the 8”-16” leave trees? I say kill - most of the leave trees this year, a year after treatment, did not leaf out but many now appear to have buds on them. I dont know if they will eventually come back out. Some are just dead. 36 acres treated last June.
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good - then I will ask this question to you. Have you ever seen a hack n squirt operation, everything below 6” treated using Arsenal, kill 90% of the 8”-16” leave trees? I say kill - most of the leave trees this year, a year after treatment, did not leaf out but many now appear to have buds on them. I dont know if they will eventually come back out. Some are just dead. 36 acres treated last June.
Triple C
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How many acres...age...and do you use a consulting forester to bid it out?
Mennoniteman
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Very interesting. Arsenal is Imazthapyr, one of my favorite clover herbicides, it kills almost everything except legumes, and it's not very hazardous to humans. What species of trees were you eliminating? My rule of thumb has always been, rough barked trees are much harder to kill than smooth barked, unless hacked properly.
Triple C
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Menn - I used the hack n squirt method in the winter of 2019 in a section of my hardwoods, targeting trees from saplings to 12" or greater dbh. I used straight 41% gly and swear I got a 100% kill on targeted trees. Everything from sweet gum, elm, hickory, various oaks. I was very pleasantly surprised at the results with just gly.
Curious you mentioned no engine braking on the Polaris but mine have it...I rarely use the brakes going down our mountainsides of our deer lease...
dogghr
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You probably have it. Depends on year and model of Polaris
Polaris has a complicated variety of trannies which make it optional as to braking availability. Dependent on whether it is manufactured with the secondary clutch and one or two way bearing. Engine braking requires the EBS secondary w a 2 way bearing. For full effect engine breaking you need that and the one way bearing in the primary for a Polaris , at least that’s what I’ve seen when working on them.
My forester obviously must’ve had the less than EBS secondary to have no braking. At any rate he about crapped his pants.
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Mostly redoak - some hickory and post oak - below 6” in diameter. It killed all the trees that were hacked n squirted - and 90% of the trees that were NOT hacked n squirted
I do have it...I have it on a 2009 Polaris Sportsman 500 and on my 2011 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI...I rarely have to use the brakes going downhill. Just keep the throttle a bit above idle and it works like a dream.
Mennoniteman
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You are correct, I'm getting my imidazolinone family of herbicides mixed up! I had to resort to wikipedia to get my mind straight on this family; Imazapyr along with imazaquin, imazamethabenz-methyl, imazapic, imazethapyr, and imazamox comprise the class of synthetic compounds termed the imidazolinone herbicides. This family kind of all works the same way, and like glyphosate they are nonselective herbicides that kill almost everything and are sometimes used as an alternative to glyphosate, but some are more effective on broadleafs (imazapic), woody species (Imazapyr), or grass (Imazethapyr).
