Native Hunter
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Here is a pear and persimmon I did this year.
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Callery Pear Grafting
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KSQ2
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It’s averaging 10” a week since the buds broke!! Just crazy!
KSQ2
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I’ve been watching the Cleveland select pear in our front yard (I know, I know, I planted it years ago before I knew how worthless they are, and now Dawna won’t let me cut it down 
), for my timing on grafting. Today I realized it is quite a bit behind the callery pears out in the wild. How late is too late to graft? They aren’t fully leafed out, but they definitely are a little beyond initial bud break.
), for my timing on grafting. Today I realized it is quite a bit behind the callery pears out in the wild. How late is too late to graft? They aren’t fully leafed out, but they definitely are a little beyond initial bud break.
Native Hunter
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I think you would be okay to do it now.I’ve been watching the Cleveland select pear in our front yard (I know, I know, I planted it years ago before I knew how worthless they are, and now Dawna won’t let me cut it down
KSQ2
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Question for you Native, can any other fruit cutting besides pear be grafted onto a callery, Bradford, or Cleveland select tree? I think I know the answer, but I thought I’d ask anyway. I got a lot of different answers from an online search from no telling who. lol
Native Hunter
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My knowledge of doing that is only vicarious. I've always heard that quince is compatible with pear in grafting, but I have never tried it. I have also heard that mountain ash will sometimes take but the success rate is low.
KSQ2
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Interesting, I did a little digging and Scion’s can be bought on eBay. I’ve finally talked Dawna into putting grafts on the Cleveland select in the front yard. She is very intrigued about the possibility of a traditional pear like a kieffer or moonglow with the white flowers, and a quince with the pink flowers on the same tree. I’m intrigued by another possible fruit tree to harvest scions off of in the future. I’m guessing deer have no issues with eating the hybrid pear/apple fruit, and it looks like they hold onto the tree well into fall, from what I’ve read.
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Native Hunter
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I would let them grow so that the open space is filled in faster. You can slowly trim back any unwanted central leaders over the next few years and/or train them as limbs, which if desired can also eventually be eliminated. That would especially be my plan on one as large as that tree in the picture.
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KSQ2
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I took a pic of this last year Native and you thought it looked to be a callery, I'm hoping you're right. It is a wild looking little tree, it looks almost more like a very tall shrub than a tree. I'm wondering if it's been sprayed multiple times being within a 25' of the field edge, also, the deer could be working it over some. Also, it did not bloom this spring, but I'm not sure all callery pears bloom??
Here's another pic for you for identification; I'm hoping to graft to it this-coming spring.
Here's another pic for you for identification; I'm hoping to graft to it this-coming spring.
Native Hunter
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I will look at this closer when I get home.
KSQ2
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Did you see my fail in the other thread??? Grrrr...
Native Hunter
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yep
Native Hunter
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I think that is a pear. There may be some that dont flower every year.
KSQ2
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That's what I was hoping; the bark even looks pear-like, thanks!!
I'd say it's almost definitely a Callery pear seedling, I had a couple that looked just like that on my property, here's the interesting one, my Apple-Pear Frankentree.
So typically people would graft asian pears or pears on these.
But on Callery pear seedlings apples seem to be compatible too.
On mine I have Winter Banana Apple and Apple-Pear Cross, both are highly compatible with pears.
And I have Crispen aka Mutsu, and Mott’s Pink (possibly actually Cripp’s Pink) which don’t have any special pear properties, and unfortunately an unknown apple, perhaps Evercrisp, also was my first successful apple graft test on this tree, but it was so high up, I decided to cut the tree down low and redo it with other needed varieties down low, especially since I have that apple grafted in dozens of other branches and trees in my orchard.
Also there’s another of these seedlings that "Evercrisp" apple and Apricot Apple were both successful on.
A deer broke the “Evercrisp”, and I cut it down to the ground and regrafted it with Apricot Apple in the end, when I left, it was growing well even after being cut back and being re grafted late in the season.
Here's a thread I made about my Apple-Pear Frankentree:
Apple-Pear Frankentrees on unknown wild tree
So I found, what appeared to be a thorny pear tree and tried to graft Asian pears on it last year, when that failed (late on and first year grafting) I tried an apple scion and it took. So this year I tried again and went crazy with it. The grafts on it are: Crispen apple Cripps Pink apple...
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KSQ2
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VERY interesting!I'd say it's almost definitely a Callery pear seedling, I had a couple that looked just like that on my property, here's the interesting one, my Apple-Pear Frankentree.
So typically people would graft asian pears or pears on these.
But on Callery pear seedlings apples seem to be compatible too.
On mine I have Winter Banana Apple and Apple-Pear Cross, both are highly compatible with pears.
And I have Crispen aka Mutsu, and Mott’s Pink (possibly actually Cripp’s Pink) which don’t have any special pear properties, and unfortunately an unknown apple, perhaps Evercrisp, also was my first successful apple graft test on this tree, but it was so high up, I decided to cut the tree down low and redo it with other needed varieties down low, especially since I have that apple grafted in dozens of other branches and trees in my orchard.
Also there’s another of these seedlings that "Evercrisp" apple and Apricot Apple were both successful on.
A deer broke the “Evercrisp”, and I cut it down to the ground and regrafted it with Apricot Apple in the end, when I left, it was growing well even after being cut back and being re grafted late in the season.
Here's a thread I made about my Apple-Pear Frankentree:
Apple-Pear Frankentrees on unknown wild tree
So I found, what appeared to be a thorny pear tree and tried to graft Asian pears on it last year, when that failed (late on and first year grafting) I tried an apple scion and it took. So this year I tried again and went crazy with it. The grafts on it are: Crispen apple Cripps Pink apple...
You didn't do everything wrong! The wax looks nice, but you did miss the Parafilm! I swear if you Parafilm your scion and do everything wrong you'll still get 50%!
And on a more serious and scientific note: Yes!
I have it on good authority that Bud 9 apple rootstock is fully compatible, as someone else mentioned quince should be compatible, and probably mountain Ash and Shipova-that would be interesting to plant in a forest.
And from my own personal experience all of these are compatible:
Apple-Pear Frankentrees on unknown wild tree
So I found, what appeared to be a thorny pear tree and tried to graft Asian pears on it last year, when that failed (late on and first year grafting) I tried an apple scion and it took. So this year I tried again and went crazy with it. The grafts on it are: Crispen apple Cripps Pink apple...
growingfruit.org
