Yep, suckers are tough. Always get a kick out of folks talking about putting one out of it's misery. They ain't people!! Really fouled up his rack though. We had one somebody shot in the knee with a rifle back in '06. He was a big nine that year. The following year he grew a rack kinda like this one but the second year after he was back to a monster 8. Got pictures of him on camera for years after the injury, all at night. Never saw him alive. Assume he died of old age.