Love this thread. I'm slowly learning my plants across the landscape. Tried several apps over the years to identify what type plants I have growing. Settled on the Seek app. Take pic of plant and almost without fail, it identifies the plant with overview and links to more data. Something about walking thru my fields or woods and no being able to name plants that I had no idea of what they were several years ago.
This thread enables me to search for the same on my place. Thx for taking the time to update!
Do you find goldenrod to be somewhat invasive in your prairies? I'm not sure the variety we have, but we have about a 20 acre abandoned farm field that we let go "back to nature" and really what that has turned into is 90% goldenrod. Our honey bees love it in the fall, but that's about all it seems to be good for, as lays down in winter under snow and offers no summer flowers.Most everyone is familiar with goldenrods, but this is one of the more unusual ones. It will usually be found at a prairie edge in semi shade and near tree roots. This is called Bluestem Goldenrod. It is a at least a moderately preferred browse. I found these near some beech roots at the edge when walking today.
Do you find goldenrod to be somewhat invasive in your prairies? I'm not sure the variety we have, but we have about a 20 acre abandoned farm field that we let go "back to nature" and really what that has turned into is 90% goldenrod. Our honey bees love it in the fall, but that's about all it seems to be good for, as lays down in winter under snow and offers no summer flowers.
Knock em back w/ mowing you think? or do you have to go herbicide route.Yes, the Canada Goldenrod and Tall Goldenrod are somewhat invasive. They can easily form colonies where they can choke out other species. If you can knock them back while the NWSGs are establishing, that seems to limit their ability later on to colonize.
My goldenrods seem to stand the winters pretty well but we don’t have nearly as much snow as you do in WI. It makes a lot of difference in winter standability.
Knock em back w/ mowing you think? or do you have to go herbicide route.
When I started my prairie we did two gly kills before drilling NWSG and forb seed. That knocked back perennial grasses and goldenrods for the first year and gave the NWSGs a little breathing room early on. After a couple of years, however, the goldenrods will come back. I have had good luck setting them back with 24D. If that doesn’t work well you can use Crossbow and will really smack them but not bother NWSGs. But it will kill other broadleaf plants, so you need to spot spray. That’s what I do
Another herbicide that is good for both goldenrod and blackberry is Remedy Ultra.
I like the tall and Canada goldenrod scattered in the NWSGs as long as they don't colonize. The basal leaves are actually a preferred deer food after a frost.
Mowing is somewhat effective on goldenrod but not a great way to control them.
When did you Spray Gly?
When did you plant?
Native Hunter, Great timing on picture. Barring bad weather, going to do that same kind of mowing on my place in Kansas in next week or so. Does that also stimulate faster spring growth? Any issues with the amount of hay left laying on the surface in those areas? I think it should for sure help my turkey hunting vs having all the tall stuff. And in a really dry year like this one is, it seems far safer than burning which I had wanted to do. My pasture is mostly 36-48" tall.
We have a fair bit of phlox. I believe both pilosa and divaricata if memory serves me. I dont notice any browsing by deer, hereA few days ago I was walking around the edge of the prairie and noticed some of this plant growing. I knew it was some type of Phlox, and tried to research it a little more. I have found that there are so many cultivated varieties that I can’t say for sure, but for right now I believe it to be what is called Smooth Phlox (Phlox glaberrima interior).
At the time I was there it was heavily browsed – almost to the point of killing the plant. Yesterday when I walked by it had been browsed even more and no flowers were visible. I have concluded that Phlox is a highly preferred browse of the whitetail deer. If anyone has more info, please chime it. I would also like some free seed….
Did the mowing work out as planned with the turkeys using it and how did your season go?If managed correctly, a prairie can be a great place to hunt both turkey and deer. A prairie with a wall of 9 foot tall grass is perfect for deer, but a turkey won't enter it. I mow narrow shooting lanes for deer hunting in the fall, but in the spring, I widen them to facilitate turkey travel. This has been working well for us for several years. Today I built the latest turkey highway for this year.
Did the mowing work out as planned with the turkeys using it and how did your season go?