Soybean plot fertilizing and lime

[tcook8296]

I plan on drilling 4 acres of rr beans before a rain later this week. I sprayed round up 2 weeks ago,
Disced the ground and ran a drag over it.
I spread 800 lbs potash yesterday.
My lime guy is getting to me late this year. He wants to come Tuesday, I want to plant on Wednesday with rain coming possibly Thursday and Friday.
Do I need to disc the Potash and lime in or can I go ahead and drill or should I hold off until I can disc it in the ground? I planted my beans in the past with no fertilizer because of my deer density is high, its just a summer snack until the fall plots come around.
This year I figured I would try fertilizer to improve the results but everything is happening late. Thoughts?

 

[DocHolladay]

I would say that if you can’t get out and disc, the drill should disturb it enough to mix some of it, then the rain will help with the rest. You discing will bring seeds up that were just laying dormant and you will have to spray again to handle the weeds once the beans get up some. I know that you couldn’t get everything spread at once, but you could try and get everything spread in a few day period and disc it all in at once or use TnM next time.


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[Drycreek]

I’m going in a different direction here, but I like to disc my fert and lime into the root level. If you’re planting RR beans, a few weeds ain’t gonna hurt. That’s what RR beans are for, and the only reason to pay extra for them.

 

[cutman]

I’m going in a different direction here, but I like to disc my fert and lime into the root level. If you’re planting RR beans, a few weeds ain’t gonna hurt. That’s what RR beans are for, and the only reason to pay extra for them.

I agree. You’ve already disked so the weeds you disturbed are going to germinate. Disk the fertilizer and lime in then plant immediately.

 

[Mennoniteman]

I know disking is better but if I'm in a bind for time I broadcast lime and fertilizer and drill without disking, and this has had ok results for me in the past. I used this method for this particular newly cleared plot in the woods this spring and the oats, buckwheat, brassica, and clover is really doing well considering the poor soil conditions and the broadcast lime and fertilizer not being incorporated.

 

[MarkDarvin]

I know disking is better but if I'm in a bind for time I broadcast lime and fertilizer and drill without disking, and this has had ok results for me in the past. I used this method for this particular newly cleared plot in the woods this spring and the oats, buckwheat, brassica, and clover is really doing well considering the poor soil conditions and the broadcast lime and fertilizer not being incorporated.

Curious, you got a soil test for ground like that? I want to jump to the conclusion that it's sandy, but it doesn't look sandy next to the rock.

 

[shawn cox]

I know disking is better but if I'm in a bind for time I broadcast lime and fertilizer and drill without disking, and this has had ok results for me in the past. I used this method for this particular newly cleared plot in the woods this spring and the oats, buckwheat, brassica, and clover is really doing well considering the poor soil conditions and the broadcast lime and fertilizer not being incorporated.

Dang, I don't realize how blessed I am with our soil. I couldn't imagine planting into that rocky stuff, but still looks great.

 

[Elkaddict]

Dang, I don't realize how blessed I am with our soil. I couldn't imagine planting into that rocky stuff, but still looks great.

You think that is rocky soil? I destroy a heavy duty disc or two every year.....

 

[Mennoniteman]

Dang, I don't realize how blessed I am with our soil. I couldn't imagine planting into that rocky stuff, but still looks great.

It's actually nice dirt, not as rocky as it looks, those are a few pieces of shale the size of a quarter that surfaced from uprooting a few trees. Those pieces will disappear over time as they disintegrate. It looks washed out in the picture, if you were to dig deeper there's black dirt underneath.

Curious, you got a soil test for ground like that? I want to jump to the conclusion that it's sandy, but it doesn't look sandy next to the rock.

It's good old Pennsylvania shale, and a soil test is a valuable start, some fields test much lower in lime and magnesium, others vary a lot in P and K.

 

[MarkDarvin]

Any idea what the CEC is on that type of soil?

 

[shawn cox]

You think that is rocky soil? I destroy a heavy duty disc or two every year.....

Yes to me it is a rock pile lol. I might pull a small rock from a plot every now and then.

 

[tcook8296]

I got the lime spread, I ended up just running the drag over it then drilled the beans. Its rained twice on them now and they are coming in nicely.
I sprayed gly 2 nights ago.
Hopefully with the deer density I have the beans can survive the summer until I can overseed the field with rye and brassicas.