Planting after spraying?

[Bullwinkle]

How long do you have to wait to no till drill non Roundup ready seed after spraying?

Someone told me 3 days. To me it makes sense to let the spray dry but why wait any longer?

 

[cutman]

I plan on planting THEN spraying. If you spray 1st you might be opening up a can of worms.

1) Spray - plant immediately - you might top kill the plant before the herbicide is taken up into the roots, so you don't get a kill

2) spray - wait 3 days - you will probably get a kill, but when no tilling you get better results when the vegetation is either 100% alive or 100% dead. The in-between phase can be iffy.

So to make a long story short: I would either plant then spray OR spray, wait 2 weeks, then plant.

 

[swat1018]

It all depends on the spray. If you are spraying a burndown with 2,4-D (for example) there is a 7 day wait to plant soybeans. Always good to read the label.

 

[Bullwinkle]

It all depends on the spray. If you are spraying a burndown with 2,4-D (for example) there is a 7 day wait to plant soybeans. Always good to read the label.

Even round up ready?

 

[swat1018]

You can spray round up and plant anytime. Some chemicals have some residual, like 2,4-D, roundup-ready or not.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Tx.

With the weather forecast I am screwed. Gonna plant brassica tomorrow and cross my fingers

I know I'm 2 weeks early but too big is better than none at all. Tough year scheduling my planting, need to retire

 

[Doe Shooter]

Tx.

With the weather forecast I am screwed. Gonna plant brassica tomorrow and cross my fingers

I know I'm 2 weeks early but too big is better than none at all. Tough year scheduling my planting, need to retire

watch for army worms when you plant early

 

[Mennoniteman]

Tx.

With the weather forecast I am screwed. Gonna plant brassica tomorrow and cross my fingers

I know I'm 2 weeks early but too big is better than none at all. Tough year scheduling my planting, need to retire

The problem I see with retiring is the people that I've known that retired were busier than when they still had a job.
I've sprayed gly and planted right away with no problems. But when I sprayed roundup an hour before a rain, it was a partial failure.

 

[Jason Broom]

How long do you have to wait to no till drill non Roundup ready seed after spraying?

Someone told me 3 days. To me it makes sense to let the spray dry but why wait any longer?

This started out as drilling in seed after spraying, which I presumed to mean a larger seed type. Glyphosate, the chemical in Round-up, works by contacting relatively new green growth, usually leaves but even succulent young stems can soak in the chemical and translocate it to the roots, where it kills the plant. Regardless of what kind of seed you are drilling, you can spray an hour before, two hours after, or even two days after...as long as what you planted hasn't germinated, it won't be killed by gly.

Then you switched gears and planted brassica? You're only a week or two early on that, but it shouldn't matter a whole lot; some brassicas, like kale, are long-season plants that you're a little late on, already. You're not drilling in brassica, are you?

 

[THE LLC]

As Jason eluded to, glyphosate has no residual effects. you can plant immediately after spraying if you are drilling. If disking, I'd wait at least a week to make sure the gly has killed everything.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Just checked my plots- we've got 1.5" rain since planting

Brassica is popping very nicely. I am very happy

Also top seeded a plot of beans that were light with another bag. The beans are sitting on the top and sprouting nicely. 1/16" stems popping out. Hope they can attach to the soil. This will be awesome if this thickens this plot

 

[Bullwinkle]

Got a decent take on my brassica

 

[JFH]

View attachment 7996 Got a decent take on my brassica

Nice cotyledons. Looks like a great start!


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[Bullwinkle]

I planted them heavy since I don't want big turnip bulbs from planting early.

Doesn't look like round up time after planting matters at all to me as long as you get soil contact

 

[Chainsaw]

I like big turnip bulbs as here the turnips are as much for Jan 15 and after as they are for the second half of hunting season. Am I missing something that is wrong or less desirable with bigger turnip bulbs? We have had both and I didn't see any difference in how they are eaten.

 

[Bullwinkle]

I like big turnip bulbs as here the turnips are as much for Jan 15 and after as they are for the second half of hunting season. Am I missing something that is wrong or less desirable with bigger turnip bulbs? We have had both and I didn't see any difference in how they are eaten.

I was always told not to let them get bigger than a baseball or they get woody. I guess I never tested it.

 

[Chainsaw]

Thanks Bullwinkle, I did a search for what makes a turnip woody and most articles used the word old and big interchangeably referring to the turnip being woody. One article seemed more detailed and stated that when a turnip begins to bolt(go to seed) the turnip becomes woody. Anne and I have eaten some of the large turnips and did not find them woody at all, not even a hint!. I'll have to pay more attention to their cycle this year. Will taste them at 5 weeks and again and onward to see when the change actually occurs. I'm thinking it could be an age thing/cycle of the plant thing. Conversely a cook website had them woody once they hit softball size.

In any event the deer here do eat them all but I'd still like to know when the woody stage kicks in for sure. I usually go with 100 lbs of N to the acre but have pushed the fertilizer to as high as 165 lbs. N and they get big quickly but do not bolt. In other words the extra nitrogen grew larger plants and larger bulbs but did not seem to accelerate the turnip plants' life cycle to the bolting stage. Normally because of the lake the property gets regular weekly rainfalls from thunder storms, regularly has very a heavy dew, and it seldom gets hot here. That could make a difference as compared to somewhere hotter and drier if bolting is spurred by dry and heat stress and if it is the bolting that actually does cause the woodiness.

 

[swat1018]

I have had tons of turnips as bigger than a softball, some much bigger. In the spring they are gone and it usually looks like someone run a tiller from all the digging. Turnips are biennial, meaning they won't bolt and get woody in one season.

 

[Chainsaw]

Thanks Swat. iI had read that turnips are biennial but had not put it together that they wouldn't bolt the first year. Like yours the deer here eat every last turnip by spring so far.