liquid fert

[buckhunter10]

so what do you all use?

Seems that it could be a great way to get max yields from small kill plots. I know I have a few plots I wouddnt want to drive over and spread fert.

However, I have brassicas/grains coming in strongly. I wouldn't mind hitting them with a liquid fertilizer. any suggestions? What about for beans/corn?

 

[catscratch]

I used some from Walmart this yr, it was similar to Miracle Grow. Results were... noticeable. I had much more significant results when I spread some 46-0-0 right before a rain.

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[dogdoc]

Very expensive compared to granules. If you are wanting to boost a small kill plot I might go for it but not a plot with any size.

 

[buckhunter10]

Ok thanks guys. Yea I have two plots in mind that are only .5 acres. My big fields i did when I planted them. I hit corn with urea and beans with dap. So they should be doing pretty well to this point.

Just looking for suggestions for smaller areas. Looks like a lot of commercialized stuff out there. Maybe there's better stuff from tsc or coop?

 

[buckhunter10]

Any other suggestions?

 

[lakngolf]

What do you use to apply the liquid fert? As I was growing up my Dad would order liquid fert every now and then but it was from COOP and they brought in truck and did the application. Then they had to worry with the wash up, etc. Anytime I am involved in spraying the clean up is what I dread the most.
As stated above, put out some type of nitrogen just before a nice rain. Small plot can be covered in no time.

 

[farmer]

We have switched to almost all liquid fertilizer. It can be a lot cheaper than granular, and once you figure it out it is just as easy. You can apply 2-15-19 at a rate of 3 gal per acre at the same time you make your second pass of round up. Or 0-0-25 if you only need potash. We apply through a sprayer or thru seed firmers on the planter.

 

[dgallow]

Any other suggestions?

Sure....keep it real simple.....one half bag each of DRY urea, DRY ammonium sulfate, and DRY potash per 0.5 ac food plot.....spun on evenly in spring and in fall for a few years, then as needed there after. Forget about liquid and the headache of using such! Ample legumes in fall and spring mixes will help a lot along with brassica and the right grass forages. Choosing the right mix of plants to grow is way more important to long term soil fertility than fancy fertilizer...get your soil biology working for your improved soil fertility....aka 'soil health'!

 

[dogghr]

Seriously Buck, for a man that put down 5000# of lime by himself with a shovel should look forward to another bag or 20 of fert? Let us know how the liquid works if you use it.

 

[sagittarius]

When I water the pumpkins I'll add about a cup of AMS (ammonium sulfate) to the 35gal tank.

To apply Boron, 5 lbs of "Solubor" diluted into enough water to spray down on a acre, applies 1 lb boron per acre.

Everything else is dry granular broadcast fertilizer. Quick, easy, less weight.

 

[buckhunter10]

Seriously Buck, for a man that put down 5000# of lime by himself with a shovel should look forward to another bag or 20 of fert? Let us know how the liquid works if you use it.

That just made me laugh out loud! Hahahaha

Ya I'll probably just stick to regular FERT. I just always question when I see new items that I had never thought of before.

 

[John Paul]

We have switched to almost all liquid fertilizer. It can be a lot cheaper than granular, and once you figure it out it is just as easy. You can apply 2-15-19 at a rate of 3 gal per acre at the same time you make your second pass of round up. Or 0-0-25 if you only need potash. We apply through a sprayer or thru seed firmers on the planter.

I'm going to get with you next year and do this FYI.

 

[Gator]

I'm going to get with you next year and do this FYI.

I did it this year! Sprayed my beans along with gly all at the same time. Jon figured it all out for me, mixed the gly in and loaded a tote in the back of my truck. I just had to sit back and watch (well and climb into the combine since I'd never been in one before). Then he welded my bushog back together for me.

 

[dgallow]

Ten years down the road......look at the soil test, soil health reports and yield etc records for consistency......compare fields with a good dry only fert program.....vs.....fields with a liquid only fert program......see for yourself the difference many farmers have seen.....many were duped by savvy salesmen into thinking a few gallons would make the world turn better on a dime? Many have forgotten the importance of carbon in manure as a soil stimulant and in return the family farm lost to debt. So, how will you get 500 lb of carbon in that little 2.5 gal jug?

Your plant roots are exploring over 2 million lbs of soil at xx depth every year.....a fraction of a gallon is what?.....a minnow in a big ocean....absolutely nothing in the realm of the long-term soil system!

 

[farmer]

I can't show you ten years of soil samples, but I can show you 5 with no decline whatsoever. I was like you and was skeptical at first, and we have slowly increased our usage each year.
We also use liquid manure and chicken litter. We use micronutrients and carbon with every pass of nitrogen. I never stated liquid was the end all be all, but for us with cash corn in the mid $3 range we have to be smart. And that includes cover crops, proper rotation, and yes foliar feeding instead of slinging it all out at once. There is a reason the number 1 soybean grower in the world and probably 5 out of 10 of the top corn growers in the world use this stuff.
I am not some savy salesman trying to make a profit, I'm trying to pass on some knowledge of what has worked for us on our farm to my friends who may not have unlimited funds to give to the coop for granular fertilizer to maybe help make their food plots a little easier and cheaper.

 

[dgallow]

My reply wasn't aimed at you...not personal at all....a very general statement. Not every farmer or every plotter has access to manure like you and I. Instead, you will find that people take the advice on liquid and forgo common sense applications of dry and/or manure...that is the point of my reply..

Sure Kip Cullers ran AMS etc through the pivot (probably seep tape now) along with 5-10 T of litter on his world record bean patch. I know plenty of high yield guys....and the off the radar top farmers who do everthing with dry spread and come out ahead every year.....I can direct you to them on gov't web pages showing NO subsidy or crop ins in 15 years

 

[richg]

So here's a question,use miracle grow?It works wonders on my vegetables at home.Run it through my sprayer and would still be cheaper then fert.And being three hours from my plots wouldn't have to worry about the n going to atmosphere.I applied n a week ago because the weatherman was calling for a 1/2 inch of rain.Wasted money on the urea and trip because it never rained.What do you guys think?

 

[catscratch]

One application of miracle grow. Top pic got it, bottom pic didn't. Same plot, opposite sides.
I did a couple of applications and it helped. Later in the summer I did one application of 46-0-0 grandular and a much more dramatic change in foliage.

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[catscratch]

Before and after of millet with dry fertilizer. Pics were taken 3 days apart. Fert made a huge difference.

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[richg]

The dry fert is my choice but it's tough to get down before a rain living three hours away from my plots.Doesn't look like much difference with miracle gro.