Farm and Ranch life

[Baker]

Here's a few thoughts I put together on feeding protein.

 

[catscratch]

Here's a few thoughts I put together on feeding protein.

I like how you got the sheds in the video! Once again, I great little clip that was informative and entertaining. Keep them going! (and don't forget to do some pond stuff).

 

[Drycreek]

A good, informative video about protein feeding Rusty. Although I fall into the “feeding because I want to” category, (one feeder on my 80 at home and one on my lease), it’s still gratifying to see deer eating something that you know isn’t going to harm them, and certainly might help them
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[Triple C]

Good stuff as always Rusty. Always enjoy your updates and insight.

 

[MarkDarvin]

Here's a few thoughts I put together on feeding protein.

How did u come across the idea to use essential oils in your ration? And where on earth can u source that much oil?

I suppose I should ask how much you use in a season first?



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[Baker]

How did u come across the idea to use essential oils in your ration? And where on earth can u source that much oil?

I suppose I should ask how much you use in a season first?



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In the 1950's it was discovered that chlortetracycline { CTC - an antibiotic } would add body weight, increase appetite , act as a growth stimulant , decrease parasitic load, help survival in factory raised stock thereby increasing profitability. Essentially since then almost any non organic meat from poultry to beef et al consumed by Americans has been fed CTC. Years back the deer breeders realized this and began adding it to their deer feed. Low and behold antler growth increased as a result of it. I wanted to do the same thing organically and found a Texas company that had developed the essential oils vit/mineral pac that replicated the CTC effect organically without antibiotics . I worked out a formula and ratio with them to have it milled by the ton along with a recipe I had copied from one of the top deer breeders in the world .

I should have also discussed more the value of the vitamin mineral pac in the feed . Recognizing that most soils are somewhat depleted thus the nutrient density of foods has seen a dramatic decrease in the last few decades. This has had a significant negative effect on human health. Deer eating in our plots also are eating the same nutrient deficient foods. A high quality deer feed with a full spectrum of vitamins and minerals fills in the nutritional gaps that are simply missing in most locales. And unlike vitamins humans take in pill form, the vitamins and minerals in deer feed are milled into a complete ration increasing assimilation.

There are other things you can do to increase feed value. I know a deer breeder in Mexico that adds a small amount of peanut oil to his feed. This increases consumption which in turn increases all the benefits of feed.While I know they get a bad rap from many folks there are things that can be learned from the most reputable breeders. I worked closely for many years with the guy that started the commercial deer breeding business from his university based program that has been and still is on the leading edge of whitetail deer research.

Happy to get you contact info on the essential oil and fit/min pac if interested.

 

[MarkDarvin]

In the 1950's it was discovered that chlortetracycline { CTC - an antibiotic } would add body weight, increase appetite , act as a growth stimulant , decrease parasitic load, help survival in factory raised stock thereby increasing profitability. Essentially since then almost any non organic meat from poultry to beef et al consumed by Americans has been fed CTC. Years back the deer breeders realized this and began adding it to their deer feed. Low and behold antler growth increased as a result of it. I wanted to do the same thing organically and found a Texas company that had developed the essential oils vit/mineral pac that replicated the CTC effect organically without antibiotics . I worked out a formula and ratio with them to have it milled by the ton along with a recipe I had copied from one of the top deer breeders in the world .

I should have also discussed more the value of the vitamin mineral pac in the feed . Recognizing that most soils are somewhat depleted thus the nutrient density of foods has seen a dramatic decrease in the last few decades. This has had a significant negative effect on human health. Deer eating in our plots also are eating the same nutrient deficient foods. A high quality deer feed with a full spectrum of vitamins and minerals fills in the nutritional gaps that are simply missing in most locales. And unlike vitamins humans take in pill form, the vitamins and minerals in deer feed are milled into a complete ration increasing assimilation.

There are other things you can do to increase feed value. I know a deer breeder in Mexico that adds a small amount of peanut oil to his feed. This increases consumption which in turn increases all the benefits of feed.While I know they get a bad rap from many folks there are things that can be learned from the most reputable breeders. I worked closely for many years with the guy that started the commercial deer breeding business from his university based program that has been and still is on the leading edge of whitetail deer research.

Happy to get you contact info on the essential oil and fit/min pac if interested.

Appreciate the response! I had a hunch you got deep into the nitty gritty on good info. No need to send me info. I'm not set up to feed. I was just curious how you came up with what you did in the event I could somehow adapt some of it.

I wouldn't discount the value of what's coming out of your soil today. Soils in general are nutrient deficient, not because the nutrients aren't there, it's the factory that gathers and processes them into plant available form have been shut down. The way you're growing stuff, I'd bet it doesn't take more than a couple years of high diversity/low poison rotations in your soil and you're back in business.

Consider this standpoint. It takes all kinds of bugs, worms, nematodes, fungi, bacteria, etc etc etc to create the system that spits out total nutrition for plants. Once you put all the things in place to foster that system, I'd argue you couldn't prevent an improvement from taking place, without a return to massive poisoning, tillage, and eradication of diversity.

I've got a notion to do some forage testing on my plot this summer. I want to test my clover at the end of my spring barley cycle (August 1st) and check total forage quality vs field forage nearby that isn't under my management. I'd try to grab very similar sample of clovers and broadleaves and send it off the boys at Midwest Labs for a full profile report. I haven't completely gotten this figured out in my head yet, but it's what I'm focused on this year. The feedback from the deer is clear. My clover plot gets scalped by first snow, while the same clovers nearby go largely unused. Now I want to see if there's a data difference.

 

[Baker]

Interesting Mark I've never done any tissue sampling of crops grown on farm. May explore with a sampling of clover and maybe one of the summer annuals this year.

I do have a Brix Refractometer that I test my garden vegetables with. Amazing how challenging it is to peak out the nutrient density even in a rich organic garden where I have been developing the soils for years.

 

[Hoosierhunting]

Interesting Mark I've never done any tissue sampling of crops grown on farm. May explore with a sampling of clover and maybe one of the summer annuals this year.

I do have a Brix Refractometer that I test my garden vegetables with. Amazing how challenging it is to peak out the nutrient density even in a rich organic garden where I have been developing the soils for years.

I don’t know much about it but thought Brix was a measurement of sucrose only. Does that correlate to nutrients?


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[Baker]

I don’t know much about it but thought Brix was a measurement of sucrose only. Does that correlate to nutrients?


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This is essentially true and it is controversial if Brix readings do indeed test nutrient density.Some say yes and some say no. I bought one out of curiosity to experiment.

 

[swat1018]

Interesting Mark I've never done any tissue sampling of crops grown on farm. May explore with a sampling of clover and maybe one of the summer annuals this year.

I do have a Brix Refractometer that I test my garden vegetables with. Amazing how challenging it is to peak out the nutrient density even in a rich organic garden where I have been developing the soils for years.

I'm a garden nerd. I'm trying to go wholly organic and would love in-depth info. I am fert free, using compost from yard waste, quail liter, horse liter, alfalfa. Struggle more with pest issues.

 

[Baker]

I'm a garden nerd. I'm trying to go wholly organic and would love in-depth info. I am fert free, using compost from yard waste, quail liter, horse liter, alfalfa. Struggle more with pest issues.

If your bored someday, I did a video on my garden..totally organic for many years...and the techniques I use . Its on my youtube channel----"Farm and Ranch Life" . I'm a gardening fanatic----maybe worse than for deer ..maybe

 

[swat1018]

If your bored someday, I did a video on my garden..totally organic for many years...and the techniques I use . Its on my youtube channel----"Farm and Ranch Life" . I'm a gardening fanatic----maybe worse than for deer ..maybe

I already watched it once last year. I'll check it out again. Need to try some companion plantings to reduce pest issues.

 

[TreeDaddy]

If your bored someday, I did a video on my garden..totally organic for many years...and the techniques I use . Its on my youtube channel----"Farm and Ranch Life" . I'm a gardening fanatic----maybe worse than for deer ..maybe

Rusty,

I predict you will be into beekeeping soon if you aren't already

bill

 

[Hoosierhunting]

I already watched it once last year. I'll check it out again. Need to try some companion plantings to reduce pest issues.

There’s a lot you can do with that. We surround our garden with marigolds which has helped with some pests too. We collect the dry seeds every year so it now costs nothing but a little time.


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[Rick's Review]

A view from the rear window of my deer blind over our property.

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[Baker]

March 15 food plots

 

[Jack Terpack]

Another very good video. Informative and enlightening. Thanks!!!!!!

 

[Baker]

Planted some trees last weekend

 

[Jack Terpack]

Great video, as usual. Do you have any issues with trees being browsed down? What percentage of trees normally do you expect to survive?