I have been waiting for Ks forestry to get back with me about quantity discounts.If I do plant that many I will use the pull behind seedling planter.I wouldn't worry about deer damage.They rub some but I don't know of any they killed.They will thicken up on their own thats why I planted in rows so I could mow between in spring and grass would provide cover.I have even burned through a patch of them and they survived fine as the thick patches won't have much grass in them.Don't spend the money for tubes.