90 Acres Northern New York

[rusty1034]

Rusty, looks great! How are the Red Osier Dog Woods doing? By the way - I agree 100% with the snap a picture app to determine a spieces. I'm using picture this. Worth its weight in gold for $29.99.

Travis,

To be honest, I have no idea how the ROD is doing. I didn’t mark or cage any of the plantings, and I can’t find/ haven’t looked hard enough to find the cuttings I planted earlier this year.

I hope to find them after the annuals die back in the fall.

Next year I plan to mark the plantings better, and cage a few as well.




Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

A great video on Winter Rye in food plots.

Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

Check out this apple tree ! So many apples that several of the branches are drooping to the ground.





The thing is that it is inside an e-fence protecting a soybean field. The fence won’t get removed until late October when most of the apples have dropped. Quite the dilemma.


Rusty

 

[Mennoniteman]

Check out this apple tree ! So many apples that several of the branches are drooping to the ground.

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The thing is that it is inside an e-fence protecting a soybean field. The fence won’t get removed until late October when most of the apples have dropped. Quite the dilemma.


Rusty

Nice looking beans. By the row width it looks like you planted them with a corn planter. When I planted beans with a 30" corn planter I would plant the field twice to end up with 15" rows.

 

[rusty1034]

Thanks Mennonite,

It’s was planted with a corn planter with 30” rows.



They are RR beans, and I use a JD Gator when I spray them, and am able to straddle the 30” rows when I spray.

If I double plant like you described, I won’t be able to straddle the rows when I spray. Will the young plants get killed/terminated if they get run over by the Gator ?

Also, when double planting, do you end up with a double yield of beans ?


Thanks -


Rusty

 

[Mennoniteman]

Thanks Mennonite,

It’s was planted with a corn planter with 30” rows.

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They are RR beans, and I use a JD Gator when I spray them, and am able to straddle the 30” rows when I spray.

If I double plant like you described, I won’t be able to straddle the rows when I spray. Will the young plants get killed/terminated if they get run over by the Gator ?

Also, when double planting, do you end up with a double yield of beans ?


Thanks -


Rusty

That is a very nice planter, I had one just like it, no-till model with the dry fertilizer bins on it as well, wish I hadn't sold it. Now I have a totally rebuilt 7000 notill 4 row with dry boxes.
Anyway, about the soybeans, I drive over them with a 4WD 75 hp tractor when I spray them when they are about a foot tall and they stand right back up again (it takes about a week for the tracks to disappear), this is a common practice with farmers. Young bean plants are flexible and quickly stand up again, however, as the beans mature the stem gets more brittle and will break when driven over, killing the plants.
30" rows vs 15" or 7.5" rows is a constant ongoing argument among farmers, the general consensus is that usually 7.5" rows yield the highest with adequate moisture and nutrients, and weed control is easier because of quicker ground shading. When I had a 30" planter I always ran over the field twice to get 15" rows and I could see a big difference in yield.
Also, I see you have a fence, but when growing soybeans for deer without a fence, 7.5 inch rows have an even bigger advantage because when the plants are small they aren't using nearly all the space and nutrients available and will grow just as fast when seeded double, and at this small early emergent stage the deer will wipe them out much quicker on 30" rows, where a higher population would possibly have survived. My experiments show that many more food plot guys could grow no-fence soybeans if they seeded them earlier, and at double to triple the normal rates. For whatever reason, when I plant later the deer seem to put a much bigger hurting on the small plants than when I plant as early as possible. When over populating soybean seed results in less growth the result is having just as many bean pods but the beans are smaller, and our deer never refused to eat them or complained that the beans were too small.

 

[rusty1034]

Thanks Mennonite,

I like the planter a lot. I wish I had spent the extra coin on the fertilizer boxes.

Based on your info, it looks if I’ll be double planting the beans next year.

Will I need to put 1/2 as many seeds in each row since there will be twice as many rows ?

Thanks


Rusty

 

[Mennoniteman]

Thanks Mennonite,

I like the planter a lot. I wish I had spent the extra coin on the fertilizer boxes.

Based on your info, it looks if I’ll be double planting the beans next year.

Will I need to put 1/2 as many seeds in each row since there will be twice as many rows ?

Thanks


Rusty

When planting for deer I'd plant twice the population. A higher population keeps the deer munching longer, and in a dry year with smaller growth you will still have the same yield in smaller beans.

 

[rusty1034]

I used this guy today to till the section that was cleared last December.




It did a pretty good preliminary job. It worked mostly as a rake, but also turned up some dirt. Gonna be putting WR and WW in it in a couple of weeks.



A mature oak tree had a pretty good crop of acorns this year. They usually get hit by squirrels, and drop before deer season.





The little 1/2 acre clover plot is looking pretty good this year. The apple tree at the edge has a decent crop.




I put some more cameras out today. I always love to see what surprises they bring. I had a brief vid of a bobcat last week. A first for me.




Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

A little spot of sunflowers ( black oil bird seed) finally blossomed.




A little evidence of how well the double layer e-fence is working.

Left side is inside fence, the one row on the right is outside the fence.



I pulled cards from four cameras. Still in velvet, no shooters.

I found one small annual scrape that had been used. Last year I had a vid of five bucks at the same time at the scrape. Hope to get some action again this year.


Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

I got some WR and WW in the ground today. Hope to finish up on Monday.

The camera on the annual scrape is starting strong.






Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

Also, got these bad boys delivered today. BPPhoto. $130 each.




Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

Looks as if the efence is still doing it’s job. Plenty of apples inside the fence, not many outside.






Rusty

 

[rusty1034]

I got these two vids from Sept. 2nd. I’m pretty sure they are of the same buck. The vid on the left side was taken at around 8:00 am, and the vid on the right was from around 5:00 pm.

Notice the shedding going on in the right side vid. First time getting a vid of a shedding buck for me.

Rusty

 

[George]

Stuff looks real nice up there Rusty.

G

 

[George]

Also, got these bad boys delivered today. BPPhoto. $130 each.

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Rusty

I just got two delivered Midway $99.

G

 

[rusty1034]

This little strip of winter rye has come in nicely.




Rusty

 

[Mennoniteman]

This little strip of winter rye has come in nicely.

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Rusty

It looks beautiful. In northern regions having at least some winter rye is invaluable for deer plots. Did you seed those with a spinner?
Another thing to go with rye, I like to throw in some labor day oats, especially in front of an early October hunting stand. I did a hundred pounds of oats spread in the area 30 yards in front of the stand for a friend, right before the hurricane, and last Saturday his son got a nice an eight point that came in through the clover rye to feed on those newly sprouted oats.

 

[rusty1034]

Yes, those were planted with a spinner. The spinner mounts on the hitch on the rear of the Gator. I mixed in some winter wheat and some clovers. I scratched it in with an old spring tooth drag.

I forgot about adding some fertilizer. Do you think it’s too late to add some ? I didn’t have the ground tested.

I’m guessing the oats will terminate after a killing frost ?

I’m a big fan of the winter rye because it grows so easily, and provides some food through the winter until about the 1st of April.
I can usually get a crop out of it the following winter by mowing the standing rye around Labor Day the following year. Oh yeah it also keeps weeds down, and adds organic matter to the soil.


Rusty

 

[Elkaddict]

I like to throw in oats to the mix, particularly in an area in range of a bow stand. Yes, Oats will die off as cool weather sets in, but it’s not until late October/early November around here even though get our first frost the end of September. For what it’s worth, I’ve never fertilized my rye/oats. They go into plots that were previously clover so I suspect there’s ample nitrogen. These are oats in our home plot planted (without fertilizer) first of August as a cover crop for clover. They are knee high+. Both are coming in very thick. I’ve got Rye/clover planted Labor Day weekend behind it. Deer are spending more time in the mature oats than the rye. The foreground is our front yard.