Throw N Mow thread...

[DocHolladay]

They are small enough seeds to make soil contact without discing. Seed and what doesn't make it to the ground, should with the mowing. I planted roughly an acre last year and it did great with TNM.

 

[Scott44]

I got my brassicas planted yesterday using the throw and roll into last years rye. No fertilization yet but I will once they are up.

 

[MarkDarvin]

Is the rest of that clover?

 

[Scott44]

Is the rest of that clover?

I'd say the green is 70% clover and 30% grasses and weeds.

 

[Gator]

Throw and mow corn. I broadcast this corn seed then mowed all the weeds down on the same day. A week later I sprayed gly to kill the weeds. It rained the day I planted and hasn’t since. I’m surprised at how well it is doing. We are extremely dry right now.

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[Mennoniteman]

Throw and mow corn. I broadcast this corn seed then mowed all the weeds down on the same day. A week later I sprayed gly to kill the weeds. It rained the day I planted and hasn’t since. I’m surprised at how well it is doing. We are extremely dry right now.

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That's amazing. I was always told corn seed needs to be buried to grow. Did you have a heavy thatch to mow, or something like small grain stubble that gave it a pretty good cover?

 

[catscratch]

Throw and mow corn. I broadcast this corn seed then mowed all the weeds down on the same day. A week later I sprayed gly to kill the weeds. It rained the day I planted and hasn’t since. I’m surprised at how well it is doing. We are extremely dry right now.

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Nice! I have the same experiences with large seeds and throw-n-mow. Corn, beans, sunflowers, and peas all grow just fine with some thatch on top and a timely rain or two.

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[Gator]

That's amazing. I was always told corn seed needs to be buried to grow. Did you have a heavy thatch to mow, or something like small grain stubble that gave it a pretty good cover?

Yes, I had a lot of weed growth that I laid down on top. Most of it was 3-4 feet tall.

 

[Gator]

Nice! I have the same experiences with large seeds and throw-n-mow. Corn, beans, sunflowers, and peas all grow just fine with some thatch on top and a timely rain or two.

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My sunflowers didn't work but they were planted where the weeds were probably only a foot tall so a lot less thatch (think the birds got most of that seed).

 

[catscratch]

My sunflowers didn't work but they were planted were the weeds were probably only a foot tall so a lot less thatch (think the birds got most of that seed).

Bummer! The bigger seeds certainly seem to need thatch or extended periods of rain.

Mine had rain right after I planted but we've had a really hot/spell lately. Plants are short but they are going to make some seed anyway. Plus the deer ate plenty of green heads for lots of protein while growing antlers...

 

[Gator]

Just a quick update to my tnm corn. I didn’t measure but I’d say it’s just over a foot tall

Finally looking like we are going to get some rain this weekend



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[Gator]

Coming along very nice.


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[USC country]

Coming along very nice.


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I want to try tnm next year with corn into rye on one of my plots. I’m hoping it will do a better job of keeping the weeds and grass down.

 

[1yellowdog]

I finally jumped on the band wagon of throw and mow plots. I sprayed at the end of July. This split plot (young pear trees running down the middle) is around an acre.

This is my smaller plot; around 1/2 acre

 

[1yellowdog]

On August 2nd, I was able to get back up to spread the seed (Radish, Rape, Chicory, Turnips, Rye, Red Clover, Alsike Clover, White Clover and Crimson Clover) also added 9-23-30 fertilizer before mowing. I mowed first pass with deck at 12" and second pass with deck at 6". My thoughts were getting thatch cut up and two passes to get seed packed/ground contact. I have probably received 1/4" of rain in 20 days... keep hoping for a good soaker soon

 

[1yellowdog]

I was back up north 3 weeks after "throw and mow" and I couldn't be happier with the results. I was nervous and anxiety driving up with not knowing what to expect. We received some rain August 3rd and 4th but no rain from the 4th until the 24th.
As you can see I probably went a little heavy with my seed rate...

2nd plot: few more bare spots and a few heavy spots.

My question to those with expertise in this method of food plots, do I want to fertilize again in September? I put down 9-23-30 when I planted.

 

[dtabor]

Well this year has been a total negative for my plots. I have had total failure in 3 small plots. I sprayed seeded etc got great kill but zero growth. We have had very little rain this year but always planned my plantings before a rain. I believe the lack of consistent rain and a resident bunch of turkeys have been my issue. Im going to take in my ATV disc and give it one last try this weekend with cereal grains the "old fashioned way" so at least something green will be in the plots (hopefully) before the season opens in October. Maybe if the seeds get hidden in the dirt the turkeys wont clean me out.

 

[dogghr]

I was back up north 3 weeks after "throw and mow" and I couldn't be happier with the results. I was nervous and anxiety driving up with not knowing what to expect. We received some rain August 3rd and 4th but no rain from the 4th until the 24th.
As you can see I probably went a little heavy with my seed rate...

2nd plot: few more bare spots and a few heavy spots.

My question to those with expertise in this method of food plots, do I want to fertilize again in September? I put down 9-23-30 when I planted.

I almost always spread Urea at planting and again 30 days later on my brassica. 100#/ac. They do love the N. Try to do so before a rain as Urea doesn't have a great shelf life on the ground. Plots look awesome regardless.

 

[dogghr]

Well this year has been a total negative for my plots. I have had total failure in 3 small plots. I sprayed seeded etc got great kill but zero growth. We have had very little rain this year but always planned my plantings before a rain. I believe the lack of consistent rain and a resident bunch of turkeys have been my issue. Im going to take in my ATV disc and give it one last try this weekend with cereal grains the "old fashioned way" so at least something green will be in the plots (hopefully) before the season opens in October. Maybe if the seeds get hidden in the dirt the turkeys wont clean me out.

Last year I had a 3 month drought after brassica planting. Like you, not much. Throw and mow does need some rain. But I will say, this fall I didnt have to plant brassica in those plots, the seed has come on strong and growing quite well. So all is not lost for you hopefully. I agree with your WR backup plan. Good luck.

 

[dtabor]

Last year I had a 3 month drought after brassica planting. Like you, not much. Throw and mow does need some rain. But I will say, this fall I didnt have to plant brassica in those plots, the seed has come on strong and growing quite well. So all is not lost for you hopefully. I agree with your WR backup plan. Good luck.

I appreciate the vote of confidence! Will plant this weekend and see what happens. Id imagine if I use my disc this time around that any brassica or clover (Small seeds) that are there will end up being buried too deep to germinate???