Persimmon and Crabapple Scions

[Bottomland]

If anybody wants to share some special persimmon or crabapple scions with me, I'm happy to trade one of my pear or southern apple varieties or hershey honeylocust. Orrrrrrr I can just send cash, haha. I need more persimmon varieties to fill out my native persimmon orchard.

 

[Shufigo]

BottomLand, I think I can help. I've got four producing crabapples than I'm grafting onto, and I'll certainly cut you a batch of scions when I prune next month. I've also got access to native persimmons that I'm going to be cutting about the same time.
As for what I need, I have two deer pear trees onto which I'd like to graft eating pears. I already have enough Bartlett scions available, but most anything else will work. The most fire blight resistant variety would be preferred. Along with that, I would love to have southern apple varieties to graft onto my crabs. I also have plenty of plain old Honeycrisp to spare.

 

[RonDon]

How do you like the hershey? Im thinking about getting a few with a couple calhouns.

 

[Bottomland]

BottomLand, I think I can help. I've got four producing crabapples than I'm grafting onto, and I'll certainly cut you a batch of scions when I prune next month. I've also got access to native persimmons that I'm going to be cutting about the same time.
As for what I need, I have two deer pear trees onto which I'd like to graft eating pears. I already have enough Bartlett scions available, but most anything else will work. The most fire blight resistant variety would be preferred. Along with that, I would love to have southern apple varieties to graft onto my crabs. I also have plenty of plain old Honeycrisp to spare.

I can definitely send you some pears. I've got Keiffer, Moonglow, J Ledbetter, Cousins, Southern King, Southern Queen, Ponotoc. The Keiffers, Moonglows, and Southern King produces the best. Most of them are summer pears, though.

 

[Bottomland]

How do you like the hershey? Im thinking about getting a few with a couple calhouns.

I absolutely love both Hershey and Calhoun. They are extremely heavy producers and the deer absolutely hammer them!! They also don’t readily drop their pods so they produce for a long time. Mine produce from late Sept into December. The deer will eat the lowhanging pods first and wait for others to fall. I’ve got hundreds of pictures from this season of deer standing on their back legs trying to reach hanging pods.

 

[catscratch]

I absolutely love both Hershey and Calhoun. They are extremely heavy producers and the deer absolutely hammer them!! They also don’t readily drop their pods so they produce for a long time. Mine produce from late Sept into December. The deer will eat the lowhanging pods first and wait for others to fall. I’ve got hundreds of pictures from this season of deer standing on their back legs trying to reach hanging pods.

Are these invasive like regular Honey Locus? Converting some of what's already growing on the place to something beneficial would be nice (with all the money and time I've spent fighting these things I can't believe I'm even asking). Are they infertile?

 

[Bottomland]

Are these invasive like regular Honey Locus? Converting some of what's already growing on the place to something beneficial would be nice (with all the money and time I've spent fighting these things I can't believe I'm even asking). Are they infertile?

I have attempted to grow them from seed using the exact same process I use for propagating Native Honeylocust with ZERO results. I also have no new seedlings on the ground under any of the trees. My conclusion is that they are infertile, but I don't know that for a fact.

 

[RonDon]

I was told they have a very low germination rate. The seeds could be soaked in a solution ( i forget what it was) I think a mild acid to up the rate. Probably something that simulates going through an animals digestion. But seedlings would have thorns.

 

[Bottomland]

I was told they have a very low germination rate. The seeds could be soaked in a solution ( i forget what it was) I think a mild acid to up the rate. Probably something that simulates going through an animals digestion. But seedlings would have thorns.

When I propagate native honeylocust, I boil them and soak them in hot water to replicate the digestion process. I get probably 90% germ on native seeds. I got zero on the Hershey/Calhoun.

 

[catscratch]

You guys are blowing my mind!!!! You don't promote locust! You kill it like it's the devil. You kill it, then burn it, then spit on it, then curse it, then in my case you do it over and over and over again because the stuff just keeps coming back. I've spent more time and money on locust than I care to admit. In all seriousness I'm happy (and envious) for you guys that don't have an invasive issue with it.

 

[Bottomland]

You guys are blowing my mind!!!! You don't promote locust! You kill it like it's the devil. You kill it, then burn it, then spit on it, then curse it, then in my case you do it over and over and over again because the stuff just keeps coming back. I've spent more time and money on locust than I care to admit. In all seriousness I'm happy (and envious) for you guys that don't have an invasive issue with it.

The deer hit it like nothing you’ve ever seen in the early fall. It’s a major food source in the Deep South. I’ve heard the Soil composition in the South makes the pods taste sweeter than in other parts of the country. I don’t know if that’s true, but it definitely is worth hunting over

 

[catscratch]

The deer hit it like nothing you’ve ever seen in the early fall. It’s a major food source in the Deep South. I’ve heard the Soil composition in the South makes the pods taste sweeter than in other parts of the country. I don’t know if that’s true, but it definitely is worth hunting over

Any chance you would like to send me some scions. I would give it a try just to see how it turns out. If I don't like them they probably not any harder to kill than what I already have. I would gladly pay you for them.

 

[Bottomland]

Any chance you would like to send me some scions. I would give it a try just to see how it turns out. If I don't like them they probably not any harder to kill than what I already have. I would gladly pay you for them.

Yeah, no problem. Just PM me your info and when I cut them I'll send you a few. I don't have alot but I'll spare you a few, haha. No need to pay me. If you have anything interesting, you're welcome to trade me something haha.

 

[Turkey Creek]

Spent 3 hrs on Saturday, cutting and retreating those suckers, sprouts, regrows...... on a patch that we have hammered for at least 3 years now. Sometimes I cant tell if we are getting the upper hand or not.

 

[catscratch]

Spent 3 hrs on Saturday, cutting and retreating those suckers, sprouts, regrows...... on a patch that we have hammered for at least 3 years now. Sometimes I cant tell if we are getting the upper hand or not.

The native variety, or the named varieties like Bottomland has?

 

[catscratch]

Yeah, no problem. Just PM me your info and when I cut them I'll send you a few. I don't have alot but I'll spare you a few, haha. No need to pay me. If you have anything interesting, you're welcome to trade me something haha.

Have some crabs that you might be interested in but have NEVER saved scion wood before so there is no guarantee that I would send you viable wood. Callaway, Hewes, Dolgo, and Golden Hornet.

 

[RonDon]

I hated the native honey locust on our place in Arkansas. It was a losing battle. Couldnt keep air in the tires of atvs to save your life! The sugar content and size of pods are much greater on the grafted varieties.

 

[Turkey Creek]

The native variety, or the named varieties like Bottomland has?

Native