Doctorbrady
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Good call, I think. Let us know your impressions and experiences.
New broadheads
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Triple C
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I'd love to report on the performance of the single bevel Badger broad head but I'm 0 for 5 this year. That's right...0 for 5. Just started using a recurve in 2013 and got off to a great start on deer and pigs. This year...wow! Talk about a confidence killer. Shot at same doe 3 times a few weeks back. No arrows left in quiver. Weird feeling to be sitting in the stand with no "bullets". Missed at 18 yds yesterday afternoon from a ground blind. Season ain't over though...
Doctorbrady
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I had a similar season about 3 or 4 years into my traditional transition...all due to target panic on game. Took a few weeks to work through, but I got through it, and managed a kill that season. Two decades and 100 traditional kills later, i can still remember the frustration. Most years I still have to work out some tiny kinks, but I enjoy the shooting, and have a good shooting method. Confidence is key to good instinctive shooting...and probably all shooting. PM me and I will be happy to give you some pointers.
Jeff H
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Fred Bear taught us that speed does't kill, accuracy does. Your on the right track (on target !) and right to be shaken by your experience. I found a broad head that shoot's well in my set up and one that I don't worry about loss of energy with. I've shot through ribs enough times that I don't give it any thought at full draw. That kind of worry creates doubt and there is no place for doubt at full draw.
Thanks for the wisdom buddy! I can't wait to get them on and shooting, and get that confidence back. I'll put some pictures up when it comes time. Maybe over Christmas break if they make it here fast enough!
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Chad Hauenstein
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If you are looking to build a new arrow to maximize foc and arrow energy check out the arrow builder software on target 2.
http://www.pinwheelsoftware.com
It lets you input all your bow specs and you can build the right arrow based on what you are looking for. It was very helpful when i got a new setup last year.
http://www.pinwheelsoftware.com
It lets you input all your bow specs and you can build the right arrow based on what you are looking for. It was very helpful when i got a new setup last year.
Triple C
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Thx Doc! I'll be after them again this weekend with hopes of sealing the deal in 2016. PM sent.
I got the cutthroats today! They look good and I can't wait to shoot them tomorrow against the Muzzy MX-4 and Rage. Calculated the AMO FOC with my Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350 arrows and the cutthroats and got 15.5%. Got 11.2% FOC with the Muzzy MX-4 and the Rage.
I'm still 3.5% away from the optimum 19% FOC with the cutthroats. I could have possibly went 200 grains.....
I look forward to seeing the speed difference tomorrow as well.
I'll take pictures!
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I'm still 3.5% away from the optimum 19% FOC with the cutthroats. I could have possibly went 200 grains.....
I look forward to seeing the speed difference tomorrow as well.
I'll take pictures!
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Doctorbrady
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Good stuff right there!
dogghr
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You should do such a thread on this forum, Doctor. Those ideas apply to any weapon to an extent, but especially with the bow. I know you did some similar talk on previous forum. Be good thing for you to start this coming year. Everyone has their own opinion to an extent, but I always enjoy your thots on the subject.
Well, I just got in from doing a little testing at a nice 28*F. After some verification, I think I have the original Rage 2-blade not the hyperdermic.
Test (not perfectly scientific): shot one arrow into my Glendel Full Rut buck with brand new broadheads, at the back 1/4 of the block (not many previous arrows have hit there). Obviously, if I wanted a full scientific result I should shoot a fresh target each time. I don't have that luxury. I shot from 20 yards with four arrows with my:
Bow: Mathews Icon set at 70lbs.
Arrow: Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350
Broadheads:
Rage 2-blade
Muzzy MX-4 100 grain
Muzzy 3-blade 125 grain
Cutthroat Right Bevel 150
Distance: 20 yards
Results (blaze orange tape represents depth of arrow in target):
Analysis: obviously the heaviest arrow had the deepest penetration (which is what everyone's hypothesis would have been) which was the Cutthroat. The very interesting thing about this test is the results of the Muzzy MX-4 100 grain vs. Muzzy 3-blade, they nearly tied with the advantage going to the heavier 3-blade with roughly a 1/4" deeper advantage. Now, the difference between the MX-4 and Rage was significant, as the MX-4 seemed to penetrate significantly more than it's equal weight partner. This must be the difference between cut width or something.
Now the cutthroats flew very well left and right. Obviously since they weigh a little more than my 100 grain Rages I was shooting and setup for, the drop at longer ranges was noticeable with the heavier head. Here is my 50 yard shot, aiming normally.
This test was very fun and I think I would like to try out the Carbon Express Nativ 100 and XT, both vs the same group.
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Test (not perfectly scientific): shot one arrow into my Glendel Full Rut buck with brand new broadheads, at the back 1/4 of the block (not many previous arrows have hit there). Obviously, if I wanted a full scientific result I should shoot a fresh target each time. I don't have that luxury. I shot from 20 yards with four arrows with my:
Bow: Mathews Icon set at 70lbs.
Arrow: Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350
Broadheads:
Rage 2-blade
Muzzy MX-4 100 grain
Muzzy 3-blade 125 grain
Cutthroat Right Bevel 150
Distance: 20 yards
Results (blaze orange tape represents depth of arrow in target):
Analysis: obviously the heaviest arrow had the deepest penetration (which is what everyone's hypothesis would have been) which was the Cutthroat. The very interesting thing about this test is the results of the Muzzy MX-4 100 grain vs. Muzzy 3-blade, they nearly tied with the advantage going to the heavier 3-blade with roughly a 1/4" deeper advantage. Now, the difference between the MX-4 and Rage was significant, as the MX-4 seemed to penetrate significantly more than it's equal weight partner. This must be the difference between cut width or something.
Now the cutthroats flew very well left and right. Obviously since they weigh a little more than my 100 grain Rages I was shooting and setup for, the drop at longer ranges was noticeable with the heavier head. Here is my 50 yard shot, aiming normally.
This test was very fun and I think I would like to try out the Carbon Express Nativ 100 and XT, both vs the same group.
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Doctorbrady
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Single bevels really shine when heavy bone is encountered. A solid piece of foam cannot do the head justice. If you set a leg bone or shoulder blade in front of your target you will be amazed at the difference! You can get cow or pig bones at the pet store or butcher sometimes.
Doctorbrady
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Happy to do it sometime. Remind me in a month or two if I haven't posted anything.
Empathize as I hunted 5*F last year & grazed a very Mature 9pt (hair but luckily No blood), high shoulder plated a very Mature nice 6 pt & later missed same big butt gobbler twice w/in 15 minutes. Fat lady ain't sung Yet !!
Jeff H
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I love these kinds of tests and analysis. Looking forward to a roadkill test !!
You might be a redneck if.....
Your standing on the side of a highway shooting a bow and arrows into a roadkill deer to determine penetration capabilities of different broadheads.
And
You might be a redneck if you drive past said guy shooting that roadkill and know exactly what he's doing.
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