Growing Conventional Corn

[Ditchdigger]

Was thinking of trying non-roundup field corn this spring. Used to be able to get left over seed from a local farmer but can't do that anymore and need a Monsanto # to buy roundup seed from rural king. Looking for ways to control weeds. Is there any pre emergent or post emergent herbicide that's safe to spray conventional corn with? Thanks for any help.

 

[DrDirtNap]

Use atrazine. It's effective and inexpensive. A little Metolachlor also helps. Both can be used PRE or POST.


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[Buckly]

Getting registered with Monsanto is not very hard. Just an agreement you can do online.
Simazine is a pre-emerg and can take the place of Atrazine as that's a restricted herbicide.
I believe Prowl is labeled for corn pre also.

 

[DocHolladay]

I went below and got Monsanto, Bayer(Liberty Link), Sygenta, Beck's Seeds, and Dow Ag. I saved a bookmark on my phone to show if anyone asks. I also receive a new card from Monsanto every year and I got one from Sygenta I think it was.

https://www.agcelerate.com

 

[sagittarius]

Looking for ways to control weeds. Is there any pre emergent or post emergent herbicide that's safe to spray conventional corn with? Thanks for any help.

If you have grasses under control, you can use 2,4-D on broadleaf weeds in corn.

 

[Ditchdigger]

Thanks for the info. Conventional corn is about half the price of roundup ready. If the price of weed control isn't much more than using roundup, might try the conventional corn. Broadleaf weeds seem to be my problem, is there a certain stage of growing that you can't spray 2,4-D?

 

[sagittarius]

Check out both the ester and the amine versions, advantages to each. Read both labels.

https://www.ruralking.com/media/blfa_files/2_4-DLV4.pdf

http://www.alligare.com/assets/pdf/24DAmineSWE_LABEL.pdf

 

[bigbluetruck]

Use atrazine. It's effective and inexpensive. A little Metolachlor also helps. Both can be used PRE or POST.


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Except that Atrazine is a restricted use herbicide, he would have to go through the proper class and get his pesticide license. May or may not be easier to just get the Monsanto # depending on his state.

Another option would be to just buy a bag of whole corn from the feed store and plant it. It will have the RR gene in it and be cheap. Ya its not "supposed" to be done, but I highly doubt anyone is gonna show up in suits and black SUVs because of a couple of acres of food plot.

 

[Ditchdigger]

So, if I'm reading the labels correctly, spray when the corn is between 4-8" tall if you don't have drop nozzles. If the corn is around 6" or so, I can use the sprayer on my 4 wheeler and not hurt the corn.

 

[Ditchdigger]

I wasn't sure if seed corn would carry the round-up gene. I thought I had read somewhere that they had somehow disabled that trait for the next generation.

 

[Mennoniteman]

I buy leftover RR seed corn from the year before from the local pioneer dealer, tell him it's for wildlife food plot. I never needed any number to buy it, leftover is a lot cheaper, and it all grows. But you want to call around now for leftovers. RR gives you a lot easier weed control option.

 

[j-bird]

If if I don't get corn from my farmer I get it from the local coop and take whatever they will give me. Farmers will give away leftovers to a reasonable extent if your killing deer. I also have used year old seed at a discounted price. Also consider you don't need top notch big brand corn either. Can get a bag from RK for $160....don't need $300 pioneer brand stuff.

 

[Satguy]

Join NWTF for $35 a year. Get a $25 Bass pro gift card for joining. Then you can buy RR corn from the NWTF for $37.50 per 50# bag. RR soybeans are $10 a bag, forage sorghum $10 a bag. Clearfield sunflowers $37.50 a bag. Its all good seed with high germination rates.

 

[mattpatt]

I don’t know if this is true or not but I’ve always heard that most “deer corn” you can buy at the store is actually RR. Most farmers now use the RR stuff as it just makes it easy to control weeds.


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[j-bird]

Just keep in mind you can NOT grow corn from harvested corn like you can soybeans. If you pull corn seed right out of the combine it will grow more RR corn.....just not very well. I don't know why....it's just the way it is. The plant will grow but grain production will be very weak - has been my experience. Soybeans on the other hand you can collect right out of the combine, and plant and they will grow just fine (inoculated or not). In my area you will see many harvested bean fields with fresh young beans growing from where the combine spilled/missed some and the conditions where right for germination.....don't last long between the deer and the coming frost. if you want to plant corn for cover - you can plant corn out of the combine......if you want to actually produce grain for the deer to eat, you need to be actual corn seed for that purpose.....in my opinion.

 

[Mennoniteman]

Just keep in mind you can NOT grow corn from harvested corn like you can soybeans. If you pull corn seed right out of the combine it will grow more RR corn.....just not very well. I don't know why....it's just the way it is. The plant will grow but grain production will be very weak - has been my experience. Soybeans on the other hand you can collect right out of the combine, and plant and they will grow just fine (inoculated or not). In my area you will see many harvested bean fields with fresh young beans growing from where the combine spilled/missed some and the conditions where right for germination.....don't last long between the deer and the coming frost. if you want to plant corn for cover - you can plant corn out of the combine......if you want to actually produce grain for the deer to eat, you need to be actual corn seed for that purpose.....in my opinion.

You're right j-bird, because hybrid corn is like a mule, mostly sterile, some strains more so than others.