Awesome, I admire his work and skills as well. He fights the Texas weather like I do and he's work inspires me to try new things. I hope to become as gifted in the tree growth department as he is, just one of the many reasons, I follow his thread every chance I get. Thanks for the info and sorry about the double post I'm still trying to get the hang of this new system. Mods please remove the other post. Wb I have enjoyed following yours as well.