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For you New York guys...
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Mennoniteman
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Ha, I was wondering how long it would take you to read that one. Ok, I guess that I was shooting a little high, we aren't quite "Texisss" here, but we do have some bragging rights of our own on the east coast. In April of 2008 Obama said "small town Pennsylvania is full of bitter people who cling to their guns and religion" and we are okay with that identity, if a liberal socialist took special pains to single us out we must be doing something right.Whoa, I say whoa there podner, y’all ain’t ever gonna be like Texas !
Triple C
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Back around 2000, the company I was with acquired a company based in PA. They sent me up there to meet many of the distributors and bring them in to the fold. I was so dreading that trip cause I thought I was headed to yankee land with preppies drivng BMW's or some other import. Discovered most of PA was as country as GA. Never encountered more pickup trucks and hunters in my life!
Same for northern CA. Pickup trucks, farmers n gun racks. I've never traveled to upstate NY but my guess is rural America is prolly the same regardless of geography.
Buckly
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So....... if a guy was looking for a place to retire and set up shop in Texas. Where’s a good place to start? Places to stay away from. Etc.Whoa, I say whoa there podner, y’all ain’t ever gonna be like Texas !
Drycreek
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I would be the last guy to ask. If I weren’t so dang old I’d move to Wyoming. Seriously ! I was just jerking MM’s chain with my post, good people, and bad, come from everywhere. I think the problem is big cities. I know upstate NY is nothing like NYC, politically or otherwise. Northern Cali is not Pelosi land. Same here, as we have Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, etc., etc. where the libs have taken over. We do have one great contribution to the rest of the country though, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee who thought we had put astronauts on Mars ! 
Let’s see, places to move to. The Hill Country, W of SA and Austin, is the most beautiful country, but they must think it’s made of gold, because it’s pricey, like waaaay too pricey. East Texas, where Tree Daddy and myself live, is mostly pine timber and cattle pasture, but we have too many folks to suit me. Deep East Texas, S of me 75/100 miles is mostly timber, big deer, not as many folks because there’s no way to make a living unless you’re in the timber business. Lots of nice lakes around though. West Texas is hot in the summer cold in the winter, and dusty all year long. South Texas has the biggest deer, thorns, and rattlers of anywhere in the state and I think Baker has a ranch down there somewhere. You ain’t seen brush until you’ve tracked something bleeding through the S Texas landscape.
Was it W. C. Fields who said, “All in all, I’d rather be in Philadelphia “ ? Well, I’d rather be in Bill, Wyoming.
Let’s see, places to move to. The Hill Country, W of SA and Austin, is the most beautiful country, but they must think it’s made of gold, because it’s pricey, like waaaay too pricey. East Texas, where Tree Daddy and myself live, is mostly pine timber and cattle pasture, but we have too many folks to suit me. Deep East Texas, S of me 75/100 miles is mostly timber, big deer, not as many folks because there’s no way to make a living unless you’re in the timber business. Lots of nice lakes around though. West Texas is hot in the summer cold in the winter, and dusty all year long. South Texas has the biggest deer, thorns, and rattlers of anywhere in the state and I think Baker has a ranch down there somewhere. You ain’t seen brush until you’ve tracked something bleeding through the S Texas landscape.
Was it W. C. Fields who said, “All in all, I’d rather be in Philadelphia “ ? Well, I’d rather be in Bill, Wyoming.
Buckly
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I was turned around (lost) once in a 1000 acre pasture in SW Texas one time in the dark. With just a dim AA penlight and a hand drawn map. Left the GPS in the Jeep. LOL. Stupid. All I could hear was rattling and in no way did I want to step on a snake half the size of Texas itself. I found the Jeep but kept that GPS with me from then out. I considered it a miracle. Brush country and you learn real quick everything that pokes through boots. Good hunting but I don’t know if I’d want to live in that area. I’ve thought a lot about Texas but I think it just gets too hot. Wyoming is ok with me but then we’re talking too cold. LOL. I might keep a summer place up this way but, it won’t be in NY just on principle.
Mennoniteman
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The older I get, the more I realize that if I move somewhere it won't be 1" further north. Winter is ok, but it's the most useless season out of the four. Bring on global warming so all of those beautiful lakes in Nunavut and the Northwest Territories become worth something.
Mennoniteman
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And did they introduce you to scrapple, shoofly pie, buttered noodles, big hard pretzels, and muenster cheese?
Triple C
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If scrapple is a bunch of stuff in a bowl with a fried egg on top of it then yes they did.
I am a big fan of Texas though I live in La. In the 90's I chose to live in Austin for a few years and it was a blast . I was single, and the city was on fire. Unfortunately grown too liberal now. However, Boerne, Fredricksburg, and the smaller hill country towns are still really neat.And they are close to South Texas which has the best hunting in N. America. though I wouldn't want to live there cause its way too hot. Texas is big with lots of variety and something to satisfy anyone.
I can personally attest to everything Chainsaw has said in this post. I stood right next to Chainsaw while the Rally was taking place We in fact rode the same bus to the Rally. This was in March of 2014. Roughly one year after the first Rally in our State Capitol in 2013 which was the year the "Safe Act" was passed in the middle of the night with the Governor claiming a "Message of necessity".
Chainsaw and I attended the first Rally in March of 2013 also.
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Buckly
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So I’m listening to the Governor tout lies today. Out and out lies. I can’t believe what I’m hearing. He’s touting that taxes in NY are lower today than when he took office. How can he state such an outright lie. So here’s the deal that all NYers know but I feel since the rest of the World is looking at Cuomo they should know the truth. When Cuomo took office the State paid 80% of Medicaid costs. That made him look bad so here’s what he did. Today the State only pays 20% of Medicaid. He mandated Counties pay 80% So Counties had no choice but to raise property and school taxes through the roof. And the reason people are leaving the State in droves. What an SOB.
Somewhat like Baker, I've spent considerable time in Corpus Christi, San Antonio, and Austin. Corpus has a wonderful aquarium, the USS Lexington, some very expensive real estate near downtown and pizzed off people cause Wattaburger moved on. 
You can get breakfast at any Valero gas station; it ain't bad! It's really a blue collar/seaport town with the south end of the community part of the north end of the King Ranch (interesting place to visit). Great fishing if you have a boat and are mobile; some folks catch nice fish at night off the jetties.. South Padre is overrated, Port Aransas is fun but unbelievably crowed most weekends .. there are some fun places to eat. The CC airport is located several miles outside the city and I found it is not real convenient to access with rentals. Austin and San Antonio are only about an hour apart ... if nobody else is traveling on 35 that day; otherwise, Friday at 3:30-4:00 pm will give you stop-start headaches like you can't imagine. The Univ of T campus is almost on top of the State Capitol and travel in that area is congested, to say the least. Great BBQ joints are really casual and fun. Nevertheless, it is a vibrant, impressive city with lots to see and do. The University is outstanding; easily one of the best in the nation. There is a famous truck stop about halfway between SA and Austin called Bucky's where you can get just about anything a traveler could want. It has something like 75 sets of gas pumps; they are very busy most days. Place is always very clean, the food is reasonable and good and the service is great.
San Antonio is by far my favorite; while somewhat sprawling like Dallas, it has a host of amenities .. starting with the River Walk and a ton of fine restaurants. Great sports venues and concerts; hey it is the 7th largest city in the U.S. Fishing will require travel, even up to Canyon Lake which is the water supply lake. As Baker noted, there are some interesting small towns (e.g., Boerne) around SA in the hill country with quaint shops and unusual items. Very crowded on good weather weekends and pretty much main street drags with tourist shops (yea, some are traps).
The SA airport is one of the best in TX; well organized, efficient, clean and easy to navigate ... in contrast to the sprawling Dallas-Fort Worth airport where you may taxi for 30+ minutes after landing looking for a gate if your not riding a 767. If you want to deer hunt - or hunt anything for that matter - y'all had better have ranch relatives or acquire a lease. There are some taxidermist shops that are better than a museum visit. You will experience considerable travel time anywhere you go outside your immediate neighborhood, but the roads are good and fun to drive (lots of hills and curves). They have a major construction project underway on N-S 281 making it 8 lanes to facilitate good flow. Lots of good shopping at places like the Quarry. Big military presence in SA; I wore myself out thanking folks for their service. If you are from a smaller community - say less than 40,000 - i don't imagine folks would enjoy living in any of these 3 communities. great places to visit however.
You can get breakfast at any Valero gas station; it ain't bad! It's really a blue collar/seaport town with the south end of the community part of the north end of the King Ranch (interesting place to visit). Great fishing if you have a boat and are mobile; some folks catch nice fish at night off the jetties.. South Padre is overrated, Port Aransas is fun but unbelievably crowed most weekends .. there are some fun places to eat. The CC airport is located several miles outside the city and I found it is not real convenient to access with rentals. Austin and San Antonio are only about an hour apart ... if nobody else is traveling on 35 that day; otherwise, Friday at 3:30-4:00 pm will give you stop-start headaches like you can't imagine. The Univ of T campus is almost on top of the State Capitol and travel in that area is congested, to say the least. Great BBQ joints are really casual and fun. Nevertheless, it is a vibrant, impressive city with lots to see and do. The University is outstanding; easily one of the best in the nation. There is a famous truck stop about halfway between SA and Austin called Bucky's where you can get just about anything a traveler could want. It has something like 75 sets of gas pumps; they are very busy most days. Place is always very clean, the food is reasonable and good and the service is great.San Antonio is by far my favorite; while somewhat sprawling like Dallas, it has a host of amenities .. starting with the River Walk and a ton of fine restaurants. Great sports venues and concerts; hey it is the 7th largest city in the U.S. Fishing will require travel, even up to Canyon Lake which is the water supply lake. As Baker noted, there are some interesting small towns (e.g., Boerne) around SA in the hill country with quaint shops and unusual items. Very crowded on good weather weekends and pretty much main street drags with tourist shops (yea, some are traps).
The SA airport is one of the best in TX; well organized, efficient, clean and easy to navigate ... in contrast to the sprawling Dallas-Fort Worth airport where you may taxi for 30+ minutes after landing looking for a gate if your not riding a 767. If you want to deer hunt - or hunt anything for that matter - y'all had better have ranch relatives or acquire a lease. There are some taxidermist shops that are better than a museum visit. You will experience considerable travel time anywhere you go outside your immediate neighborhood, but the roads are good and fun to drive (lots of hills and curves). They have a major construction project underway on N-S 281 making it 8 lanes to facilitate good flow. Lots of good shopping at places like the Quarry. Big military presence in SA; I wore myself out thanking folks for their service. If you are from a smaller community - say less than 40,000 - i don't imagine folks would enjoy living in any of these 3 communities. great places to visit however.
rusty1034
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Tried finding information regarding people “leaving NY in droves”. I couldn’t seem to find any. The data seems to show that the population is stable.
Rusty
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Buckly
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By Heather Hartel – Correspondent, New York Business Journal
2 years ago
New York is top in the U.S. in terms of its residents leaving for other states.
In 2015, New York had a population of 19.5 million. By 2016 (the latest year available), it shrank to about 19.3 million, resulting in a net drop of 186,000 people.
This trend has been the case for awhile, as census data shows more New York citizens have been moving out of the state since around 2011. This exodus from New York is due to many factors, the top ones cited by experts being recent tax hikes, high cost of living, a poor jobs climate, and unideal weather.
According to recent data, New York state tops the charts in terms of outmigration from the state, and is followed by Illinois, California, New Jersey and Connecticut. All five of these states have negative net migration rates.
While more New Yorkers are leaving the state each year, the question must be asked of where they are going.The top five states that New York migrants head to are Florida, New Jersey, California, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
In comparison, the top five largest in-migration states are, in order, Florida, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia.
Southern and Western states are faring much better in terms of population growth than their northern neighbors. Also according to the data, those leaving the top out-migration states such as New York and Illinois are heading to these five states and a few others after they leave.
Since the recession in the mid-2000s, migration to Sunbelt states rapidly picked up as these states in the South and West have more opportunities for employment as well as more affordable housing than counterparts in the north and east, according to experts cited in U.S. News and World Report.
States with high unemployment, higher costs of living, and colder climates cannot compete with these regions of the country — and it shows in migration rates.
By Heather Hartel – Correspondent, New York Business Journal
2 years ago
New York is top in the U.S. in terms of its residents leaving for other states.
In 2015, New York had a population of 19.5 million. By 2016 (the latest year available), it shrank to about 19.3 million, resulting in a net drop of 186,000 people.
This trend has been the case for awhile, as census data shows more New York citizens have been moving out of the state since around 2011. This exodus from New York is due to many factors, the top ones cited by experts being recent tax hikes, high cost of living, a poor jobs climate, and unideal weather.
According to recent data, New York state tops the charts in terms of outmigration from the state, and is followed by Illinois, California, New Jersey and Connecticut. All five of these states have negative net migration rates.
While more New Yorkers are leaving the state each year, the question must be asked of where they are going.The top five states that New York migrants head to are Florida, New Jersey, California, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
In comparison, the top five largest in-migration states are, in order, Florida, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia.
Southern and Western states are faring much better in terms of population growth than their northern neighbors. Also according to the data, those leaving the top out-migration states such as New York and Illinois are heading to these five states and a few others after they leave.
Since the recession in the mid-2000s, migration to Sunbelt states rapidly picked up as these states in the South and West have more opportunities for employment as well as more affordable housing than counterparts in the north and east, according to experts cited in U.S. News and World Report.
States with high unemployment, higher costs of living, and colder climates cannot compete with these regions of the country — and it shows in migration rates.
