Can anyone tell me what these are?
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Chipdasqrrl
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That's what I thought too, but there's no mature oaks around and I didn't plant them so I don't know
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j-bird
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Young trees can be difficult to properly ID with just the leaves.....they can be difficult regardless actually. My gut tells me its a cottonwood, aspen sort of tree....but I could be way off. I doesn't look like an oak that I am familiar with, but I could be wrong about that as well. I would suggest caging them and wait for better leaf development for a better ID.
Chipdasqrrl
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They do look like oak in the upper leaves, but a few of the lower leaves in the second pic look like American elm. Any elm around? Agree with caging and seeing what happens.
Chipdasqrrl
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That's a good point, they really do look like elm. There used to be a lot of elms on the property but they were wiped out from disease. I wonder how they would've came back. I'll have to investigate closer and see if I can find any mature elms around. There are a lot of these small plants that can't get very big because they're browsed heavily.
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Nebraskaz71
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my vote is elm
catscratch
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Look like Chinkapin to me also. Are they fuzzy underneath? Any of them more serrated on the sides?
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Chipdasqrrl
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They're not fuzzy underneath, and they don't really get much more serrated. I'm thinking they're elm. I took a few more pictures of them the other day
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I'm not positive that the top one is the same type of plant.
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catscratch
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The elm we have locally are fuzzy underneath. Have you done a Google search for tree id in your state? Of course like someone said before; id can be difficult with such young plants.
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j-bird
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The bark on the tree (white/grey and smooth almost more like a skin than a bark) and some of those leaves look like American Beech to me. Maybe, maybe not.... but I see some similarities. The first picture - the leaves really remind me of beech.They're not fuzzy underneath, and they don't really get much more serrated. I'm thinking they're elm. I took a few more pictures of them the other day View attachment 8294View attachment 8295View attachment 8296
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I'm not positive that the top one is the same type of plant.
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Chipdasqrrl
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From what I found on Google it seems to me like elm, but you're right it's still hard to tell
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Chipdasqrrl
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Good point, there are beech trees in the area. Beech never really came to mind though because I didn't think deer would be browsing it so hard if it was beech
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j-bird
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I have seen them browse it before....not much, but I have seen it. When I had my place cut a few years back some of the beech stumps shot up "suckers" if you will. The deer hammered them while they where not "hardened off" yet. The actively growing soft green shoots the deer really liked. I have seen this on other trees as well that typically are not browse species at a more mature state. If you have beech in the area do a little side-by-side and see if that is what it is. It's just a hunch/guess on my part.
