WOODS seeders/products

[buckhunter10]

Watched it, interesting stuff. The key is that there's so many different planting conditions, and here conditions are good, therefore they get good results. Notice that it's not a true no-till planting, the pasture looks like it been cut, and maybe disced sometime prior to this planting. There's a lot of dirt showing, with hardly any thatch, and plenty of moisture. Seed to soil contact plus moisture equals germination and established growth.

yes he actually seeded grass into this pasture with this machine in Spring - not sure if other items had been used, but a drag he mentioned they had ran a drag over it after spring planting. Also - I believe he is in NC - so depending on where, good chance I’d a low CEC soil.

Nonetheless, I am intrigued!

 

[SwampCat]

If you want a true no till drill - the Woods Seeder is not that. But, it is a great food plot planter that does great in many conditions, but planting in heavy green vegetation or even thick, fresh dead vegetation is not where it is at its best.

It will also disk, repair erosion, hog root, and trail ruts - which a no till drill will not touch. It will also cultipack - which a no till drill will not do. It is considerable less expensive than most no till drills.

 

[davidhelmly]

Thank you for the take @SwampCat and @davidhelmly -

If/when you all run it through standing vegetation (say rye grain and vetch) - are you bush hoggin or rolling the crop then after? Have you found the machine lays the rye down?

I know that even some NO tills (6 ft models) struggle to plant through the layed over thatch so guys are planting into standing thatch then mowing or roller crimping/spraying in AG world.

Also - have you all tried planting diverse mixes and do you need to separate the seed or could you just use one box, calibrate it to the lbs per acre and go from there? Example my fall mix (rye, oats, wheat, kale, clovers, radish, turnips, vetch, peas).

Thank you all for the honest and fair feedback!

AT

I plant thru standing vegetation probably 90% of the time, I plant cereal grains and brassica mixes into standing clover every year and set my disk almost straight to do as little disturbance as possible and it works great. I have also planted some 8-10 variety summer mixes and then planted right into it in the fall with no mowing or spraying, the cultipacker on the back lays everything down as you plant. I have much better luck planting into standing crops than mowed.

I have planted some mixes with the small and large seed in the big seed box and it did fine but I try to do my small seed mixes together in the small seed box and the large seed mixes in the large seed box.

Here is a good example of planting thru a sorghum heavy 5 way summer mix with red and white clover, PTT, GHR and wheat. You can see in the center section of the first picture that it laid the previous crop down completely flat when planting and the second pic is what it looked like in mid June of this year.

 

[buckhunter10]

I plant thru standing vegetation probably 90% of the time, I plant cereal grains and brassica mixes into standing clover every year and set my disk almost straight to do as little disturbance as possible and it works great. I have also planted some 8-10 variety summer mixes and then planted right into it in the fall with no mowing or spraying, the cultipacker on the back lays everything down as you plant. I have much better luck planting into standing crops than mowed.

I have planted some mixes with the small and large seed in the big seed box and it did fine but I try to do my small seed mixes together in the small seed box and the large seed mixes in the large seed box.

Here is a good example of planting thru a sorghum heavy 5 way summer mix with red and white clover, PTT, GHR and wheat. You can see in the center section of the first picture that it laid the previous crop down completely flat when planting and the second pic is what it looked like in mid June of this year.

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That is exactly what I hoped to mimic. Thank you for sharing pics. Please keep me updated on results. That’s fantastic!!

 

[SwampCat]

I plant in standing clover with some pretty heavy weed cover. In fact, that is my standard procedure every fall. Disk set to run almost straight. Probably forty acres worth. I have planted into freshly sprayed little bluestem and had mediocre results. I have spring planted into lasts years dead johnson grass as below with excellent success. one pass with disk gang aggressive.

 

[RGrizzzz]

Have you checked out the landpride units too?
Compact Drills | Land Pride

 

[buckhunter10]

Have you checked out the landpride units too?
Compact Drills | Land Pride

Landpride and GP are the same MFG - GP makes the drills. Cost of a 606NT is around 15-18k, used ones (if you can find it) are damn near the same cost. You can find tow models (often more new) used but for my terrain and plots, I need a 3pt.

Landpride does make one little drill for orchards but if I was to spend the extra 8+K on a drill, I would just wait until I upgrade the tractor and get the 606NT 3pt. My buddy has one, they are soo bad ass!!!

I do want to thank everyone for the feedback, I am really going to keep shopping around and seeing what is available - new to market, etc.

This year will be another year of broadcasting for my farm - hope my luck is a good as last year!

 

[TreeDaddy]

Landpride and GP are the same MFG - GP makes the drills. Cost of a 606NT is around 15-18k, used ones (if you can find it) are damn near the same cost. You can find tow models (often more new) used but for my terrain and plots, I need a 3pt.

Landpride does make one little drill for orchards but if I was to spend the extra 8+K on a drill, I would just wait until I upgrade the tractor and get the 606NT 3pt. My buddy has one, they are soo bad ass!!!

I do want to thank everyone for the feedback, I am really going to keep shopping around and seeing what is available - new to market, etc.

This year will be another year of broadcasting for my farm - hope my luck is a good as last year!

What is recommended minimal HP for tractor for 3pt 606NT?

bill

 

[buckhunter10]

What is recommended minimal HP for tractor for 3pt 606NT?

bill

It varies by tractor a bit, because it is relative to the 3pt lift capacity but the further you get from the tractor (drills are deep), the less the lift capacity is on the given tractor model. Most folks, I have spoken to say 70HP min for a 606NT 3pt** . Now if you are able to tow a drill, that is a totally different ball game!! You can get away with a 40hp tractor but the drills are also far more expensive as you need two remotes (I believe) and they have a lot of hydraulics on them for the wheel kits and such.

 

[Mennoniteman]

What is recommended minimal HP for tractor for 3pt 606NT?

bill

I agree with buckhunter. Definitely out for any compact model, a full size ag tractor is needed. For older models the HP to weight ratio was lower, so a 65 HP tractor would probably handle it. For a newer model at least 75 hp.