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Official timber harvest/logging thread
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dogghr
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Any veneer pays well but as I’ve said the demand is WO for wine/bourbon barrels. They can’t get enough and pay very well.
These sell for 500-800$/ barrel.
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dogghr
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Not for looks. That barrel sits full of wine at a vineyard outside of town where I live that we were at last week. The microbrews and wineries are all the rage across the country. Then throw in the upper priced bourbons and the mostly young people are driving the market. Barrels are needed for curing all the above.
Surely the demand will ease but no complaints with me at the moment.
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weekender21
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Updated pics. I'm trying to plan out next year's improvements because I'd like to create a lot of edge instead of just an 8 acre chunk of hardwood regeneration. Deer are already starting to walk the perimeter some.
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Beautiful! I’d consider a .25-.5 acre food plot (or maybe two separate plots). Keep in mind your most common winds and access. That clear cut will provide good food almost immediately and good bedding in a few years.
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pinetag
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I'm assuming it's no more trash than any other normal logging operation. Shouldn't take much to remove the limbs and tree tops in the place I want to clear.
My plan is to create a lot of edge through plots, conifer seedling pockets, NWSG's, and native hardwood regeneration. First i will create a perimeter plot with spokes headed toward the center as well as toward stands in the other direction. Second I will create thermal cover pockets using Balsam Fir which does well in bottomlands. Last I would like to seed some NWSG pockets for bedding. In addition I would like to create a buck sneak trail (just inside the timber) that goes all the way around it and gives bucks a chance to scent check all the bedding areas and food.
Yellow - cutover perimeter
Green - food plots
Brown - conifer plantings
Peach - NWSG'S
White - sneak trail
Orange - stand locations
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I did a harvest on my property last year, and I took a bunch of pics and videos. I had a thread on here about the cut at the time. Finally got around to making a youtube video of it. I really enjoy managing the timber for value and wildlife. The video I made largely so my sons can look back years in the future.
Also did a planting demo. The clay here is very hard so the planting is slow. A growing season out we have 90% survival. I treated it with spot herbicide over the summer.
Also did a planting demo. The clay here is very hard so the planting is slow. A growing season out we have 90% survival. I treated it with spot herbicide over the summer.
pinetag
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I don't have a whole lot to update on my cutover just yet.
After the season ended a couple weeks ago I started clearing debris from the perimeter trail left by the skidders. I don't plan to use that for hunting access, just a way to guide deer closer to my low impact stands and as a way to retrieve any downed deer that run out into the thick stuff. As I continue working my way around the perimeter I am throwing down rye for early germination and then eventually a spring mix to get some summer food established. To prevent a monoculture of woody regeneration, I am also getting ready to frost seed a mix of NWSG's and wildflowers in various pockets on the high spots. The couple remaining mature oaks will provide good hard mast this fall. I can't wait to see how much the deer use the edges this xoming fall.
I'll follow up with some regen pics as the weather warms up.
I also made a couple of posted sign mounts for the property line where I don't have any trees left.
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After the season ended a couple weeks ago I started clearing debris from the perimeter trail left by the skidders. I don't plan to use that for hunting access, just a way to guide deer closer to my low impact stands and as a way to retrieve any downed deer that run out into the thick stuff. As I continue working my way around the perimeter I am throwing down rye for early germination and then eventually a spring mix to get some summer food established. To prevent a monoculture of woody regeneration, I am also getting ready to frost seed a mix of NWSG's and wildflowers in various pockets on the high spots. The couple remaining mature oaks will provide good hard mast this fall. I can't wait to see how much the deer use the edges this xoming fall.
I'll follow up with some regen pics as the weather warms up.
I also made a couple of posted sign mounts for the property line where I don't have any trees left.
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pinetag
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Ive gotten a lot accomplished in my cutover over the last few months. Hopefully I can remember it all...
1. Cleared debris from my perimeter trail and made some "natural" bridges in the ditches so I don't tear them up every time I ride the trail. It gives me access to about 90% of the way around the cutover.
2. I frost seeded the trail as well as some strategically placed micro plots. The rye shot up quick and there is also a little bit of crimson clover growing in there too.
3. I planted a couple varieties of apples and crabapples leading toward one of the micro plots. I also planted some pockets of northern white cedar, and a variety pack of bare root seedlings I received from the Arbor Day Foundation including red bud, mulberry, dogwood, and a couple others I forgot
4. I seeded a mix of NWSG's, pollinators, and planted some red osier dogwood cuttings
5. Lastly, I cut some trails inside the treeline that follow the entire cutover and I have some interconnecting trails leading to/from the cutover itself.
The deer and turkeys seem to be following the script so far. A few months left of the summer growing season should really thicken up the cover for fall.
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1. Cleared debris from my perimeter trail and made some "natural" bridges in the ditches so I don't tear them up every time I ride the trail. It gives me access to about 90% of the way around the cutover.
2. I frost seeded the trail as well as some strategically placed micro plots. The rye shot up quick and there is also a little bit of crimson clover growing in there too.
3. I planted a couple varieties of apples and crabapples leading toward one of the micro plots. I also planted some pockets of northern white cedar, and a variety pack of bare root seedlings I received from the Arbor Day Foundation including red bud, mulberry, dogwood, and a couple others I forgot
4. I seeded a mix of NWSG's, pollinators, and planted some red osier dogwood cuttings
5. Lastly, I cut some trails inside the treeline that follow the entire cutover and I have some interconnecting trails leading to/from the cutover itself.
The deer and turkeys seem to be following the script so far. A few months left of the summer growing season should really thicken up the cover for fall.
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pinetag
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The couple of pics down in the woods are actually intersecting trails that lead around the cutover and join the horseshoe food plot to the cutover. Think of it like a 4 way intersection. I'm seeing some good traffic there and I have a double stand about 40 yards downwind of that intersection.
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pinetag
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You’ve got your very own logging operation going in your property tour!
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dogghr
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I recently did some post season scouting and was able to walk the cutover. I found some good stuff growing…
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I forgot about this thread Pinetag. Sorry Your place looking good w logging. I need take some more pics. My Logger has come back in after stepping away due to health issues. Grabbing mostly RO this time.
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pinetag
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Thanks. I’m fairly pleased although I do have some multiflora and Japanese honeysuckle to take care of. I looked into a prescribed burn with the local forester but if they can’t get a bulldozer in there, they won’t likely do it. No bulldozer is getting across my little bridge.
Not to mention it’s bottomland so burning would be somewhat sparse anyway. I’ll probably have to maintain it with a combination of spraying and mechanical control to keep it early successional, or at least keep certain sections that way. The rest will regenerate as typical cutover.Glad to hear the logger is back cutting on your place. If you do end up taking some pics, post em up.
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yoderjac
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Thanks. I’m fairly pleased although I do have some multiflora and Japanese honeysuckle to take care of. I looked into a prescribed burn with the local forester but if they can’t get a bulldozer in there, they won’t likely do it. No bulldozer is getting across my little bridge.Not to mention it’s bottomland so burning would be somewhat sparse anyway. I’ll probably have to maintain it with a combination of spraying and mechanical control to keep it early successional, or at least keep certain sections that way. The rest will regenerate as typical cutover.
Glad to hear the logger is back cutting on your place. If you do end up taking some pics, post em up.
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We had an area of low quality hardwoods that we wanted to keep in early succession with prescribed fire. There was a creek crossing that was problematic for equipment. We spent a few hundred dollars on a culvert pipe. It was the first project with the mini-excavator I purchased for habitat projects. It worked out well.
We used a dozer to put in our initial breaks, but once they are in, we just use a tractor with a heavy fire disk to maintain them. We hit them with the disk right before fire. When we burn large areas in the tens to hundreds of acres, we want to have a dozer on site. With smaller burns in the 5-10 acre range with good breaks, we don't have a dozer on site.
