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objective lens on night vision scopes
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Mennoniteman
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Generally the bigger the objective lens the better you can see. Glass quality and size is the most important part of any piece of optical equipment, and cheap glass is going to be a mistake. Digital enhancement is going to help in a small way but is limited to exactly that, digital cannot make up for poor glass size and quality.
ok thanks, I had googled and saw a few things that said the opposite from each other. I knew that as far as a regular scope goes, the bigger the lens the more light can be gathered which mean the longer you can see in low light but wasn't sure about the night vision since you can in essence switch to night vision in low light. the reason I'm asking is I'm looking into a sightmark wraith 4k 4x32 scope. academy sports has a 40mm and a 50mm lens. I'd rather go with the 50mm but it's out of stock. I can get the 40mm around the 1/24. what do you think?
Mennoniteman
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You are correct that 50mm is supposed to be better for low light conditions and a wider field of view. However I can always see better in the middle of the day with 50mm vs 40 mm, I think it's got something to do with "a brains ability to perceive and process what we're seeing" better because of the wider angle and the better light. I think I'd be ok with the 40mm if that's what's available, but the 50mm would be worth holding out for if you can find it.
In night vision the price increases drastically for higher power scopes but IMO they are worth every penny. I go coyote hunting sometimes with a 50X ATN Thermal and it's an amazing piece of equipment, you can identify an eight point buck in the middle of the night at 800 yards.
Mennoniteman
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Let me know what you get, I am in the market for another one.
swat1018
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Hopefully you go thermal, vs. NV. ATN is an entry level optic, but they don't get rave reviews from experts in the field. I've used one, it wasn't bad. I opted for a clip on. It mounts ahead of your day scope. So your Leupold or other scope that is already on your rifle is your sighting device, the clip on just allows you to see at night with your scope. The beauty is you are able to switch it from rifle to rifle, no need to "sight in", can be used stand-alone as a monocular or for searching for wounded game, etc. The negative is expense (like all of them) and the mounting solution for some rifles is complicated. An AR style rifle with a quad rail is easy, but a standard bolt action, takes a special mount to get a rail ahead of the day scope.
I have a Burris, it's pretty descent.
I have a Burris, it's pretty descent.
Native Hunter
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Could you post a link to the one you use? Thanks.
will do. I checked on the sightmark website and they're out of stock on the 50MM.
swat1018
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BTC50 | Burris Optics
www.burrisoptics.com
It uses CR123 batteries. I have 8 rechargable ones I carry. It takes 2 to run it. If you leave it on, it will run about an hour on 2, non-stop. I can get 4 hours out of my 8 rechargables, plus or minus.
Mennoniteman
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The reason I'm following your search is because I have the same questions as you do. Sorry that one didn't work out for you, I'm waiting to see what you do next? P.S. I still have ATN in the back of my mind, online reviews are poor, but I know some people who have them with good results...ok well I bought the sightmark wraith 4-32x40 and mounted it but then saw on their website that it only has a recoil rating up to a .308
sending it back because I have a 30-06. anyone know of one that will be good for a 30-06?
yea I emailed them about the ATN X-Sight 5 ultra HD 4K night vision one to see if it will withstand the 30-06 recoil but haven't heard back yet. I'll let you know when I do. I really liked the first ATN I had but when that screen went gray on the AR I wanted to cry lol. I can only imagine what it would have done on the 06
Mennoniteman
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My eye is on the ATN thermal, my friend has it on a 6mm/284 and a 300blackout with no problems.
ATN emailed me back and said that all their scopes have a recoil rating up to a 416 Barrett. I went and got the ATN X-sight 5 5-25. I'm buying different rings because a few reviews and articles said that the rings that come with the scope aren't that good and is possibly the cause of the scopes not holding zero and going blank. hope it works
Mennoniteman
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Great, I'm waiting to hear about it, put up some pics. What rings are you going with?
well that's my problem. I'm trying to find a set of good quality rings that has the picatinny accessory rail but those are hard to find. I bought a set of Leopold rings but they didn't have the extra picatinny rail so I'm trying a picatinny offset mount (first pic) but also bought a set of bestsight rings. just not sure how good bestsight is. the offset mount can go under the Leopold rings so I'll try that first. unless you know of any other good rings that has the picatinny accessory rail?
