Is this AO???
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Sampson
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J bird,
I am no expert but I think that would be a Bradford Pear. Did it put on white blossoms after it leafed out? Bradfords seem to leaf early and mine always have thorns that become a new branch then blossoms with white flowers. I hope that helps, I think Okie maybe your best bet for a positive ID, if it's a Bradford pear.
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I am no expert but I think that would be a Bradford Pear. Did it put on white blossoms after it leafed out? Bradfords seem to leaf early and mine always have thorns that become a new branch then blossoms with white flowers. I hope that helps, I think Okie maybe your best bet for a positive ID, if it's a Bradford pear.
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Callery pear is the name of the wild bastard child of a "sterile" Bradford pear...Not saying that is what this is for sure yet...may very well be AO...
Did it bloom white flowers?
Have you ever in the past noticed a red berry on this tree?
Did it bloom white flowers?
Have you ever in the past noticed a red berry on this tree?
j-bird
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No flowers of any sort yet. The bradfords have already flowered locally, so it isn't a bradford. All I know is that thus far my experience tells me that if if greens up early - it tends to be a bad thing AND if it has thorns is also tends to not be of much use to deer. I have 2 of these that I have located that I am aware of. I have no issue cutting and treating with tordon.....or they are small enough I should be able to pull with the tractor if I choose to go that route as well.......................just like knowing what I am killing!
E_308
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Don't pull it or you will have 20 sprouts to cut. Cut it off ground level and hit it with either tordon or concentrated Gly. Looks like AO to me. Don't wait for the berries, kill it. Welcome to the fight, I try to kill a couple of AO every trip. I will still never make a dent.
j-bird
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Luckily I think I only have 2 of these. I find them when I do burns and mow saplings as part of my CRP contract maint. These may get a good drink of tordon!!!
A guy on our deer lease planted some of these along a plot border on our lease. They don't seem to be an issue in Oklahoma...I guess our climate keeps them from spreading...
j-bird
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I deal with jap bush honeysuckle on a regular basis so I fully understand. This is in an area I am converting to switchgrass so I will have multiple times to deal with it if needed. Then it will get exposed to burns as well. I'll kill it. Just knowing it is there is the biggest part of it.
Reagan
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Anyone who plants an invasive like autumn olive or bush honeysuckle should be beat with a stick.
Wait until birds start eating the millions of berries that it produces. If you don't have much if it, you will.
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That is what is happening with the callery pears here...someone plants some Bradford Pears because they are "pretty" and the next thing you know we have thorny fruitless pear trees popping up everywhere!!!
Reagan
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The pears are here too. You can see them all along the hi-ways when they bloom.
I hate them. My neighborhood is full of them but there are none in my yard. If I did have one, I'd cut it down.
Luckily they start falling apart when they get about 20 years old. I've personally cut up over a dozen in my hood when storms blow through and they fall apart.
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I hate them. My neighborhood is full of them but there are none in my yard. If I did have one, I'd cut it down.
Luckily they start falling apart when they get about 20 years old. I've personally cut up over a dozen in my hood when storms blow through and they fall apart.
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j-bird
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I think what I killed was a callary pear and not AO - not sure, don't care.....it's dead now! Invasives are about being aware of them and addressing them as needed. I tend to agree that in some cases people do some dumb things, but in many cases I think they are simply misinformed or under informed. Most have good intentions. Some just don't care. My neighbor falls into that category. The understory of their woods is dominated with jap bush honeysuckle. In fact it is about their entire understory. I will never be entirely rid of it because they refuse to do anything about it. I have been able to grossly reduce it on my place, but if whoever follows in my foot steps isn't interested in managing it - it will take over again. This is how I noticed this stuff......anything that greens up early gets my attention because it tends to be something bad......at least on my place.
Having spent a warm afternoon cutting and treating jbh, I sat down with a cold beer and read this. Truth.
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It's funny, I walked by dozens of AOs to kill JBHs yesterday. I guess you have to pick your battles. Besides, my foraging friends will run AO berries through a sieve, and say the juice is the perfect cocktail base- kind of a perfect balance of sweet/tart. I'll give them the taste test, and if they fail, they go too.
Last winter I rabbit hunted one of my old woods that I seldom go to anymore, and a little creek bottom that always gave up rabbits (and a deer or two) was so choked by JBH that it was nearly impossible to get through. The ground underneath that stuff is almost completely barren.
Last winter I rabbit hunted one of my old woods that I seldom go to anymore, and a little creek bottom that always gave up rabbits (and a deer or two) was so choked by JBH that it was nearly impossible to get through. The ground underneath that stuff is almost completely barren.
E_308
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Just stumbled across an article the other day with AO berry recipes (while I was researching kill sticks for basal and stump treatments). Claimed the berries were 15 times higher in Lycopene than tomatoes. Might have to try some this fall, best part of that is if I am eating them the birds aren't. Maybe I have a cash crop on my hands!
If you eat the weeds, they ain't weeds. It's interesting how so many wild foods rank high in beneficial compounds like antioxidants and phytochemicals. Every spring I look forward to the first crop of stinging nettles, which cooked become a pretty good sautéed green. Because they are super high in iron, I always feel really good after eating them for a week or so. As I plan out my CRP windbreak planting for next year, I'm wanting to include a lot of edible shrubs for that portion of the windbreak. I'm looking at hazelnut, chokeberries and chokecherry.
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