I'm getting a tractor

[shaman]

Let me show you my #1 challenge:

All told, I think the field to the right of the barn is about 1/2 acre. We call it Gobbler's Knob. My guess is that this is too steep to roto-till, and that I'll have to do some version of squirt-mow-throw to keep it from eroding. It also has some hefty slabs of limestone exposed-- not good for a tiller.

I've currently got 2 seed mixes pencilled in. One is Antler King Game Changer Clover. The other is HitList No-till.

Double check what I'm doing. Yeah I know, the Buck-on-Bag stuff is a bit more expensive, but I've already bought the seed. The question is how I use it.

 

[jsasker007]

Chicory goes great with clover.

 

[yoderjac]

Let me show you my #1 challenge:

All told, I think the field to the right of the barn is about 1/2 acre. We call it Gobbler's Knob. My guess is that this is too steep to roto-till, and that I'll have to do some version of squirt-mow-throw to keep it from eroding. It also has some hefty slabs of limestone exposed-- not good for a tiller.

I've currently got 2 seed mixes pencilled in. One is Antler King Game Changer Clover. The other is HitList No-till.

Double check what I'm doing. Yeah I know, the Buck-on-Bag stuff is a bit more expensive, but I've already bought the seed. The question is how I use it.

If you are planting clover, plant for fall with a nurse crop of winter rye. Spray to kill the existing vegetation. Broadcast your seed and cultipack it if possible. Do so with rain in the forecast. In the first spring, mow the winter rye back to 8" each time it hits about 18". This will release the clover gradually and the WR will keep growing and battling weeds. The WR will die on its own later in the summer but by then the clover should have filled in. As others have said, chicory is a great partner for many types of clover like ladino or Dutch white.

 

[shaman]

I need someone to check my cypherin' here. I haven't done this much brain work since I retired-- haven't even needed to take off my boots once.

I have a sprayer that takes 25 gallons of water and sprays 2.2 gallons per minute with a 140" spread out of the boom. I want to spray Gly on 1 acre.

I'm figuring 6.25 cups of Gly in a tank of water and running the ATV at roughly 5 miles per hour will empty enough Gly to kill an old hay pasture.

Am I right?

 

[yoderjac]

I need someone to check my cypherin' here. I haven't done this much brain work since I retired-- haven't even needed to take off my boots once.

I have a sprayer that takes 25 gallons of water and sprays 2.2 gallons per minute with a 140" spread out of the boom. I want to spray Gly on 1 acre.

I'm figuring 6.25 cups of Gly in a tank of water and running the ATV at roughly 5 miles per hour will empty enough Gly to kill an old hay pasture.

Am I right?

The nominal rate for total kill is 2 qts per acre. You need to calibrate the sprayer. There are many ways to do this. I use the 1/128th acre method with my tractor, but there are lots of ways to do it. The simple way is to fill you tank with water, and go spray a field you measure out to be 1 acre. That tells you how much your sprayer will put out at the speed you held. It is much tougher to maintain a fixed speed with an ATV, so it won't be exact. Once you now how much fluid your sprayer put out to cover 1 acres at the given pressure and speed, you are set.

You simply subtract your the amount left in the tank after you cover one acre from your sprayers capacity (25 gal). For argument sake, lets say there was 5 gal left in the spray. You would then add 2 quarts of gly for every 20 gal of water. If you want to fill your tank, it would be 2 1/2 quarts. ( that is 2 quarts for the first 20 gal and 1/2 quart for the last 5 gal (5*2/20).

 

[RGrizzzz]

I need someone to check my cypherin' here. I haven't done this much brain work since I retired-- haven't even needed to take off my boots once.

I have a sprayer that takes 25 gallons of water and sprays 2.2 gallons per minute with a 140" spread out of the boom. I want to spray Gly on 1 acre.

I'm figuring 6.25 cups of Gly in a tank of water and running the ATV at roughly 5 miles per hour will empty enough Gly to kill an old hay pasture.

Am I right?

Make sure you're adding AMS or NitroSurf to the water BEFORE you add the Glyphosate. If you have hard water, it will neutralize the gly, which is a weak acid.

 

[yoderjac]

Make sure you're adding AMS or NitroSurf to the water BEFORE you add the Glyphosate. If you have hard water, it will neutralize the gly, which is a weak acid.

Good point! AMS makes gly more effective you have minerals or dirt in your water source. The BEFORE is the right approach. If possible agitate and give it a few minutes for the AMS to bind with the minerals and tie them up before adding the gly.

 

[shaman]

Thanks. I had no idea about AMS.

How much AMS per gallon are we talking?

 

[yoderjac]

Thanks. I had no idea about AMS.

How much AMS per gallon are we talking?

I've seen recommended rates between 8lbs and 17lbs per 100 gal. I'm sure it depends on the amount of minerals in your water. Personally, I've seen improvement with a few handfuls. One more thought...you will want to get water soluble AMS for spraying. It can be bought in both forms as it is also used as a soil amendment.

 

[shaman]

AMS and Nitrosurf: is this an either/or thing or do I need both?

 

[yoderjac]

AMS and Nitrosurf: is this an either/or thing or do I need both?

Either. Most 41% gly has a surfactant in it.

 

[T-Max]

I have used this a bunch with great results. I order it online usually, but recently saw it in Rural King if you have those nearby. I don’t, but grabbed a couple while I was traveling.

So I calibrated my sprayer running the tractor in 5th gear at half throttle (the speedometer has been broke for years). Coincidentally that comes to 3 oz. Per gallon of Gly which is the rate I mix it to spot spray. So for gly I treat my boom like a giant spot sprayer when I need to and worry less about the acres and more about the coverage.


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[yoderjac]

Just a quick warning for new folks. I was at a big box store the other day and tried to grab some gly for around the yard. When I grabbed a jug of Roundup, I got a surprise. It had no gly. The guy in the store said that had to remove the gly because of the "cancer issue". As you read posts, especially old ones, folks used to use glyphosate and Roundup interchangeably even though Roundup is a brand name.

If you go to TSC or Rural King or another farm store, you will likely find 41% glyphosate of one brand or another which is what we are talking about. Be careful if you are just doing a small plot and go to a big box store and grab Roundup thinking you are buying gly. Yes, it will kill the weeds (even faster than gly) but the herbicides in it have soil residual effects that you don't want if you are planting.