Has Mathews strategy run it course?

B

Bullwinkle

Active Member
i was at the range and the subject came up regarding the decline in Mathews. I think even the diehard Mathews in me will switch to Elite soon

I hate the new design. They used to dominate by staying one step ahead of the competition each year

I' own the outback, Z7 extreme and Creed. Z7 extreme shoots the best. My creed is better than the 5" brace height goofy bow they are making today.

Anyone else see this?
 
Not meaning to start a war, just trying to call it like I see it

I've been a Matthews junkie for 15 years. IMO they lost their MoJo

I am actually sad. If anything with this post I hope they get their #%* together. Heck we now have a xbow (raven) advertising 100 yard 3" groups. What has Matthews's done since solo cam?
 
IMO a fella needs to shoot a lot of bows and then decide.So many are excellent,nobody dominates the quality anymore. But I think the last 5 years has only yielded small incremental improvements in bow design by all makers. Speed is pretty much topped out,shock and vibration vastly improved by everyone.Maybe people are now expecting a lot better every year. The prices have gone crazy. If I was shopping I'd look for year old stuff from the guys that feel they need to have the latest and greatest.I always kept my bows for 6 years or longer,but now I can legally use a cross bow, so I am out of the bow buying merry go round. Just my 2 cents
 
I shot Bowtech for the last 10+ years and made the switch this past winter to Obsession. I had shot every Bowtech made and always fell back to my 2009 Admiral as my hunting bow. When I put the Obsession M6Z in my hand I couldn't put it down. Smooth draw, solid back wall, very little recoil or vibration on a bare bow. I am guessing every manufacturer has a bow to fit every person but I just hadn't found it until now.
 
I was a Mathews guy but now I'm not, they didn't even make one to fit my draw length, over 30"

G
 
George said:
I was a Mathews guy but now I'm not, they didn't even make one to fit my draw length, over 30"

G
Click to expand...

What are you shooting George? I'm 31.5 and am shooting a Z9 still. Shot an elite last year, and still liked the feel of my Z9 better.
 
I shot Mathews for years. MQ32, Outback, Drenlin, Z7. Shoulder problems made me seek out a more pain friendly bow. I am now firmly in the Elite corner. I've had a Pure and an Answer, and currently own an E35 and a Synergy. The Synergy is my favorite bow ever. I do however, regret never owning a Switchback. Many guys say that's the best bow Mathews ever made.
 
swat1018 said:
What are you shooting George? I'm 31.5 and am shooting a Z9 still. Shot an elite last year, and still liked the feel of my Z9 better.
Click to expand...

My draw is 31.5 but I shortened up to 31. I shot MQ1 and now bowtech Insanity. 3 years ago when I bought the new one Mathews had one slow model that went 31".

G
 
I think all of the top brands are hitting a wall technology wise. Every year, I shoot the latest bows from Mathews, Hoyt and Bowtech looking for a technologhy break through. The last several years, I've simply reverted to my 4-8 year old Bowtechs (Experience, Invaion and Guardian) because there was no appreciable step up in performance. Not sure it's a Mathews issue at all but a maturing industry.
 
Maybe all the tech engineers of these companies are over in the crossbow departments designing new tech for the 2000$ Xbow models that are now all the rage. Just saying
 
Last edited:
dogghr said:
Maybe all the tech engineers of these companies are over in the crossbow departments designing new tech for the 2000$ Xbow models that are now all the rage. Just saying
Click to expand...
You could be right,however it does seem the biggest improvements come at the beginning of the evolution when it's easy to make improvements. At some point ,the" law of diminishing returns" comes into play. I believe they have hit the wall as far as speed. Any lighter arrows will be like dry firing. Draw weight efficiency is maxed out. Where do you go from there?
 
After the pencil/eraser you had the pen, typewriter, inkjet printer, computer, and paperless society. Archery equipment is nowhere close to it's zenith. Longbow, recurve, compound, xbow, airbow, and the next big thing will be a cartridge type arrow that you shoot out of a weapon similar to a 12 gauge single shot shotgun. And then it will be offered semiautomatic on an AR platform to cater to the hi-tech crowd. And somewhere a real hunter will still be shooting deer with a stickbow and arrows that he made himself. Each one of us has to figure out for themselves where they want to fit into this picture.
 
I have been bow hunting since age 14, and in all of those years I have only had three bows.
My first was a hand me down Bear Whitetail at age 14 and I used it until about age 22. Well I took it in for a tune up and the bow dealer laughed and then proceeded to talk me into a new High Country Royal Hunter with all new add ons and I walked out a thousand dollars lighter.

I guess it was eleven years later when I took the High Country Royal Hunter in for a tuneup at another dealer upstate and that dealer immediately handed me a Matthews Legacy. I had to admit the weight difference was substantial. So over the course of a few hours he sets me up with the bow, arrows, lighted knocks, new sight, Whisper Bisket etc and hands me a bill for over a thousand. I handed him a card and he said sorry I do not take CC. I said well I did not walk in the buy a new bow so I do not have that much cash on me. I said here is the bow etc back I will be back tomorrow to pick it up. The dealer said no take it home with you now and catch up with me tomorrow. First time I ever met the man and not to many people would allow someone to walk out with over a grand worth of equipment on a hand shake.

Still have the Matthews Legacy after all these years and cannot see myself shelling out over a grand again when this one still does everything that a new one does. I will treat it to a new string though.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top