Durana

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I frost seeded some Durana about 2 weeks ago. Under ideal conditions, when should I notice any germination this time of year?
 
I'm curious to know as well as I just seeded some ladino and I would think they would be fairly comparable.

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I'm curious to know as well as I just seeded some ladino and I would think they would be fairly comparable.

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From what I’ve read, Durana is a slow starter. I planted some last fall. It germinated but nothing impressive. I believe the first growing season it focuses on root development then the above ground growth explodes, hopefully
 
Clover starts much better with a nurse crop than trying to seed it alone. Buckwheat and oats are good choices for spring seeding, wheat and rye work well for fall seeding. Fall seeded rye with a frost seeding of clover in early spring is a great combination. The clover should germinate in several weeks. It takes much longer for seed to germinate in cool weather. We are still several weeks off for frost seeding clover in zone 6b.
 
Clover starts much better with a nurse crop than trying to seed it alone. Buckwheat and oats are good choices for spring seeding, wheat and rye work well for fall seeding. Fall seeded rye with a frost seeding of clover in early spring is a great combination. The clover should germinate in several weeks. It takes much longer for seed to germinate in cool weather. We are still several weeks off for frost seeding clover in zone 6b.
Good deal. I put down oat seeds with mine this past weekend.
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I have planted a lot of Durana clover and it is slow to start but persistent once established. It outcompeted all of my medium red clover I planted with it...
That’s impressive. The areas I planted Durana are being converted back to cattle pasture. One plot is all red clover but I’d like a true perennial clover and like the idea of Durana taking over that plot
 
Clover starts much better with a nurse crop than trying to seed it alone. Buckwheat and oats are good choices for spring seeding, wheat and rye work well for fall seeding. Fall seeded rye with a frost seeding of clover in early spring is a great combination. The clover should germinate in several weeks. It takes much longer for seed to germinate in cool weather. We are still several weeks off for frost seeding clover in zone 6b.
I frost seeded Durana into last fall’s winter rye in two plots and into one red clover plot. Do think that’s ok?
 
From what I’ve read, Durana is a slow starter. I planted some last fall. It germinated but nothing impressive. I believe the first growing season it focuses on root development then the above ground growth explodes, hopefully
This is 100% correct. But not sure to the OPs question if it should be germinating yet.
 
I frost seeded Durana into last fall’s winter rye in two plots and into one red clover plot. Do think that’s ok?
I think that will be fine, however, if you had a high seeding rate on the cereal rye, I would terminate the rye, once it gets 10" tall this spring. If you seeded the cereal rye at 50 lbs per acre, you'll probably be ok. At 120 lbs/acre and it will shade out the clover, enough, to not give you a good stand.

How many pounds per acre of clover did you seed?
 
Um, 50 pounds on 1/2 acre? That probably equates to around 25 pounds per 1/2 acre of actual pure live seed (PLS) or 50 pounds per acre of PLS. You went a little high ..... :)

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Bush hogging won't kill the rye. It will just shorten it and then keep growing. The best thing to do, is spray it with clethodim and crop oil, when it starts to actively grow. It will kill the rye and not harm the clover and the extra clethodim won't go to waste, because you will use it take care of future grasses in your new plot.

Keep an eye on it and post pictures in another 45 days and let's see what kind of stand you have with the clover, and we might change our minds on what to do. That's a lot of clover you put down! :)

My Father always used to say, that the best fertilizer a farmer can apply ..... was his own shadow. Got to get out there an look and make decisions from there! :)
 
I have planted a lot of Durana clover and it is slow to start but persistent once established. It outcompeted all of my medium red clover I planted with it...
I love a happy ending! Red clover can be a good nurse crop as well, and in a perfect world the Ladino outcompetes it...
 
I was down at the farm last weekend and wish I had taken a few pics of my ladino/durana plots. The look fantastic. At my latitude, I cannot think of a better source for near year round food than clover. And the more cost conscious I become the better I like clover. Gift that keeps on giving.
 
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