Couple of returning bucks from last year

Good looking deer but could really use some more pics to take a stab at age. First buck to me looks 3 at a minimum. No clue on the second with just a head pic.
 
I don't have any good body pics of the 8 pt this year, but here he was last year when I THINK he was 2.5 but what do you think??



 
Ha thats my problem. They are the same deer only 6 months apart! I think I want to give him another year
 
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