Concorida Oak Growth Rate

[Fishman]

I was graciously given 7 Concordia Oak acorns in 2018 from fellow member (Letemgrow) of this site. All seven sprouted in early 2019, but they did not grow much their first year. This past winter, I moved the seedlings from a raised planter bed to a large pot to give these trees one more year to do something. All seven trees are less than 8" tall. I have other oak seedlings twice as tall that were planted as acorns five months ago. The Concordias are in the same potting mix as all my other trees that are thriving and have sun the majority of the day. They look healthy, but they are just small. I cannot find anything online that discusses their growth rate except to say that they produce acorns early. Is this the normal growth rate for Concorida Oaks?

 

[jteeen]

I'm no expert but they are probably putting on all their growth underground in that pot. It doesn't appear to be air root pruning so they probably still have a taproot and will all grow together.

Sent from my LM-G710 using Tapatalk

 

[Flo1919]

My thought after messing with a bunch of these trees, both seeds and seedling is, they grow best in the ground with a tube. I have many trees that have exploded out a 5’ tube by there third year. Anticipating a banner year for my CO’s.

 

[mattpatt]

In my experience, Concordia Oaks don’t do very well in pots or Rootmaker containers. I have some in root trapper bags right now started from acorns I collected from my trees last year and although they look okay and are growing I wouldn’t say they are doing spectacular. I think they would do much better in the ground where the tap root can go deep. Plus I’m having to water them every other day due to the heat we’re experiencing.

Matt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[g squared 23]

This is a concordia planted in 2017 as a seedling from MDC. I’d agree that they have done poorly in pots. I’d like to direct plant a few acorns to see what happens.

It is going to have a dozen or so acorns for the first time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[mattpatt]

This is a concordia planted in 2017 as a seedling from MDC. I’d agree that they have done poorly in pots. I’d like to direct plant a few acorns to see what happens.

It is going to have a dozen or so acorns for the first time.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The tree looks great. You must keep it watered. Mine out in the field don’t look nearly that good and they are some of the original batch I received from MDC when they first started offering Concordia many years ago. I think they’re around 10yo now.

Matt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[letemgrow]

I can't say that I see phenomenal growth with any oaks I've planted in the first year no matter the route planted.

I can say that I planted an alba acorn in 2016 that had less than 1' of growth the first year....it is now close to 20' tall and just explodes in growth yearly.

In 2017, the growth was better but still not like it was every year after that.

 

[letemgrow]

This is it fall of 2016…




Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum

 

[letemgrow]

Here’s year one of a Concordia oak I dug up in Petersen’s yard in 2009.



Same Concordia in 2021




Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum

 

[g squared 23]

The burr oaks I’ve gotten from MDC have outpaced the Concordias. I’d rate the Concordias as “average” to above average growth for an oak. The other ones I planted don’t all look as good as the one pictured above.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[mattpatt]

Definitely average growers for sure but a very pretty tree and it always amazes at the variation in leaf pattern.

Matt


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[Fishman]

I was just at my property earlier this week. I could have taken a photo of my only Concordia that is left if I would have known this thread was going to be bumped to the top. The Concordia is about 7' tall. For a 4-year-old tree on my property, that is severely underperforming since most other 4-year-old oaks are 10-12'. I planted it near three DCO so hopefully they will be able to pollinate it since the other Concordia seedlings gradually died.

 

[mattpatt]

As I said before the trees I have are all 10+ years old. Purchased the very first year MDC offered them for sale.

I have three in my yard which obviously receive all the supplemental water they need. Those are ~15’ tall (maybe taller) and have produced acorns for the last several years.

I have several more out where I deer hunt. I put tree tubes on those when I planted them and they have received no supplemental water since the day they were put in the ground. Most have survived our hot summers but they have not thrived. Many are only 7-8’ tall and have never produced an acorn. I found one tree this year that had a hand full of acorns on it for the first time. So while they seem to be extremely drought tolerant (which is awesome) they don’t produce early and don’t grow well in these types of conditions. Basically they will survive but won’t necessarily thrive.

They do however make a beautiful yard tree and I have gotten comments from people asking what trees those are in my yard.

Matt


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[Fishman]

I took a photo of my only Concordia oak this past weekend. Its growth rate has been underwhelming. I planted it in a raised bed as an acorn in fall 2018. I transplanted it to a pot in 2019 to grow another year before planting in its current location in early 2021. The three Dwarf Chinkapin Oaks marked in red were planted in February 2020 as year old seedlings and are taller with one tree producing a couple of acorns this year. I guess I should be happy the Concordia is still alive as I lost several 4-5 year old trees this year due to the extreme drought in south Louisiana. My property is outside of the range of DCO, chinkapin, and swamp white oak so I guess I should not be surprised that it isn't thriving.

 

[mattpatt]

I took a photo of my only Concordia oak this past weekend. Its growth rate has been underwhelming. I planted it in a raised bed as an acorn in fall 2018. I transplanted it to a pot in 2019 to grow another year before planting in its current location in early 2021. The three Dwarf Chinkapin Oaks marked in red were planted in February 2020 as year old seedlings and are taller with one tree producing a couple of acorns this year. I guess I should be happy the Concordia is still alive as I lost several 4-5 year old trees this year due to the extreme drought in south Louisiana. My property is outside of the range of DCO, chinkapin, and swamp white oak so I guess I should not be surprised that it isn't thriving.
View attachment 26070

Pretty much what I’m seeing out of mine. They survive but they certainly don’t thrive. They sure are drought tolerant though.

Matt


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk