I completely agree, the Barnes Vor-TX 110g is the round to use for this caliber for hunting. Haven't been let down with it.
Agree. Shot placement is critical. Small deer only. Larger bodied deer really show it's weakness.No matter how you slice it, the 300BO isn't as powerful or versatile (for big game hunting) as a 30/30. It is only by virtue of light-for-caliber bullets of specific construction that it is really suitable for big game at all. Even then, the shots should be very carefully selected and placed, making this a cartridge suited to experienced hunters who can shoot very well, even when under pressure. I know it isn't a popular stance to take, but I feel this cartridge is a poor choice for younger shooters.
.5 Saboted muzzle loader( in this case savage 10ML ,300 gr .458 Barnes original bonded, harvester crush rib sabot, 59.5 gr. VV N120 smokeless, 2450 fps) .Doe Shooter, I ask this out of respectful sincerity and as an attempt to learn and gain a better understanding from others experiences, how many deer have you shot vs recovered with the blackout?
I completely follow what you are saying regarding the shock factor, when I hit a deer in the shoulder with my 270 WSM it instantly folds and drops, with the blackout it drops but will kick for a second or two.
When you say a .5-.70" hole, what round are you using on deer?
Out of respect for the 300 Whisper - 300 BO I believe was designed to be a short range Special Ops man killer with heavy weight suppressed loads. Put it into that use I'm sure it preforms perfectly.
Put the round into a long range game taker and it may not preform up to our desires.
.5 Saboted muzzle loader( in this case savage 10ML ,300 gr .458 Barnes original bonded, harvester crush rib sabot, 59.5 gr. VV N120 smokeless, 2450 fps) .
.7 Hand loaded 12 gauge SPW HAMMER HEAD, http://slugsrus.com/product94.html, 1500fps.
I quit using it in favor of the.357/.44 Baines Davis in the early 2000's. Rules also changed to allow hand guns and long guns during all seasons . So we using it more for blood trailing /coup de grace weapon with a front of chest carry holster.
Still have the barrel,dies etc for the T/C. Load mostly 190gr cast gas checked for fox,yotes, trapline dispatching. Cheap to shoot.
Been using Barnes 110gr X for many years. It works best when you pass it through some kind of bone. Just my experience and opinion.When we first started using it the early 90's ,bullet selection was limited. The Barnes was there almost from the beginning.Agree soft tissue hits = long trailing. Used lil gun, w296,h110,vv110,vv120 with vv110 working best for me.Ahhh, slugs, pistol (and Ill. rules) never crossed my mind regarding the larger calibers...makes sense now.
If you haven't tried out the Barnes 110gr tx on a deer, definitely recommend having a second look as I have heard similar stories from individuals who tried the 300 when it first came out and thought it was a marginal at best round and have since stated that the new loads were game changers. I don't have that long of a history with it and have only known it since the more current loads have been available but so far we have a 100% recovery rate and connecting with bone appears to be key with the Barnes load as ironically the one deer shot in the heart ran the furthest.
Not to obfuscate the obvious but everything comes down to shot placement regardless of caliber or projectile. Perfect example, last year a buddy shot a yearling doe in the neck with a 300 win mag, she ran off 80 yards and luckily he saw her lay down but still very much alive and put another round in her to finish her off. The 300 win mag has over 2.5x the energy as the 300 blackout but if you don't have proper shot placement it doesn't amount to much.
Wish I could say I've only lost one deer.If you hunt long enough ,you'll lose one once in a while.
my personnel experience with the 300 BO. (AAC 9" Upper with AAC SDN-6 suppressor)
1. With a subsonic 220gr HP from Remington, I took a suppressed shot at a nice 10pt from just over 100 yards. Based on what I felt I read on the ballistics, it should have been more than enough. Well, even though it was suppressed, there was still the first round pop, and what normally should have been a nicely placed heart shot, the deer bucked from the crack of discharge jumped forward and I ended up with a gut shot due to the 1100fps round. spend the next 6 hours tracking to never finding the deer. Made me sick to say the least.
2. I now only use the subsonic rounds for pig hunting and only head shots. I will say that the round has incredible energy and penetration. Just not the shock as you would get with a typical faster round.(for example, 220gr supsonic rounds will not set of tannerite) I have taken several pigs this way, but always now keep in mind how slow the round is to get the maximum benefit shooting suppressed to reduce wildlife disturbance.
3. I also have some 300 BO supersponic rounds that I hope to have my 9 year old harvest his first deer. With its reduced recoil and suppressed should make for a comfortable/confidence round for a child.