Round Up rain test (Unplanned)

[Letmgrow]

The farmer who rents 90 acres of land from me called a spray company last week to spray all the fields.. The sprayers were scheduled to come yesterday but they broke a boom and had to do repairs. They showed up this morning and started spraying even though it had been raining and was looking like more coming.
They finished at 12;20 PM. At 12:40 PM we got a downpour which lasted 15 to 20 minutes then drizzles most of the afternoon. It's cleared up now but more rain is in the forecast.
I talked with my farmer, who is also my neighbor and friend this afternoon. He more or less laughed it off and said he thought it would be alright. I have always planned at least two hours and preferably three or four hours of time between spraying Glyphosate and predicted rain. As he said, he's a little behind and would chance it but if he needs to he'll have it sprayed again just before planting. I guess it's a little different when you're planting 2,000 acres as opposed to my 1/4, 1/2 and 1 acre food plots.
I'll keep you posted.

 

[Kurt]

That will be really interesting to hear how it goes. I'd be worried about that one but be fun to see if it is an issue or not.

 

[Letmgrow]

That will be really interesting to hear how it goes. I'd be worried about that one but be fun to see if it is an issue or not.

I'll be talking to him tomorrow. Previous to taking the job he has now which is manager of a large farm, he worked for a spray service himself. I'm not sure if extra precautions are taken in these situations or not. I'm as curious as anyone else.

 

[dogghr]

Yea I agree that’s tight bit should prob be ok.
Depends in part what you are killing. If it was Natives Kentucky Fescue from Hades then my money would be on failure!


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[Letmgrow]

Yea I agree that’s tight bit should prob be ok.
Depends in part what you are killing. If it was Natives Kentucky Fescue from Hades then my money would be on failure!


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Along with some weed and grass this is what we are targeting.
http://deerhunterforum.com/index.php?threads/my-fall-plots-are-in.6038/
I have added some acreage to what I rented out before which is just grass land with the hay having been taken off each year.

 

[Buckly]

I can’t see how it would be effective with a heavy rain just after application. I also have seen less than expected results from spraying too early. Usually needs to be consistently over 50 degrees night time temp to be effective. I know we have not had that in this part of the State yet.

 

[FarmerD]

It will be an interesting test. Was everything actively growing when it was sprayed? How cool was it? All might have a bearing on the kill.

 

[Letmgrow]

The fields were starting to grow. They were pretty well mowed down by the deer last fall into early winter.
Temperatures yesterday were in the mid fifties and around 45 this AM with fog.
I'll try to get pictures this weekend and more a little later on.

 

[Drycreek]

It will be an interesting test. Was everything actively growing when it was sprayed? How cool was it? All might have a bearing on the kill.

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I used to wait until the dew was off until I read on this forum that I didn’t have to. Since that was only last year I haven’t put it into practice yet, but will next week. I can’t see how a heavy downpour twenty minutes after spraying is gonna help though.

 

[Mennoniteman]

I like spraying with a light dew, not running off the leaves wet, though. But spraying mornings can be iffy because of a temperature inversion, which can lead to excessive spray drift and all your apple trees killed. And a fog is the number one sign of a temperature inversion. Farmers have to have an applicators license to spray some of the more restricted chemicals, and one their main points in the classes is, never, ever spray if there's any fog around.
Anyway, my guess is that application will be a partial, success, but not a total weed kill.

 

[Letmgrow]

Here is a likeness of the sprayer the spray company used. The actual sprayer they had here had wider flotation tires on it. Spray pattern was 120' wide. It didn't take long to do all three fields. The chemical was Glyphosate with a surfactant with nothing else added.
https://images.equipmentlocator.com/equipment/3402620-0001.jpg?mode=crop&404=noimage.jpg&w=673&h=500
I have faith in the company. They have been in business since 1980 and I know the family well. I also buy seed, fertilizer and lime from them as well. Like I said the farm manager is my next door neighbor, a friend and he did work for a while for a different spray service. He's fully licensed as an applicator. His comment was, "You only have certain windows of opportunities for certain jobs". I had a conversation with him last evening about his time working for a spray service. He told me it was the most stressful job he ever had. When the weather was right for spraying the phones were ringing off the hook. Everyone wanted their service right now and they all wanted to be first in line. Even with 5 spray units trying to schedule everyone and route all the sprayers to various locations was a nightmare.
Right now we are both in a holding pattern waiting to see the results and hoping for the best.

 

[Letmgrow]

I wanted to get out this morning and take a couple pictures. Forget that. The fields are covered with an inch or more of the snow we got overnight.

 

[Letmgrow]

Update: I checked the fields today. I'm pleased to say the fields are taking on a yellow color. I didn't have my phone with me so I didn't get pictures. We have had rain on and off here ever since the spraying was done. Only one sunny day since. I'll wait a couple more days and check again. I'm feeling a little better about this though.

 

[Drycreek]

Update: I checked the fields today. I'm pleased to say the fields are taking on a yellow color. I didn't have my phone with me so I didn't get pictures. We have had rain on and off here ever since the spraying was done. Only one sunny day since. I'll wait a couple more days and check again. I'm feeling a little better about this though.

That makes me feel a little better about mine. I had about two inches on mine the afternoon after I sprayed in the morning. Cool temps at night too. I haven’t looked at mine yet but probably will tomorrow.

 

[X-farmerdan]

Update: I checked the fields today. I'm pleased to say the fields are taking on a yellow color. I didn't have my phone with me so I didn't get pictures. We have had rain on and off here ever since the spraying was done. Only one sunny day since. I'll wait a couple more days and check again. I'm feeling a little better about this though.

I'm a sample of one. It's been 25+ years since I ran an agronomy center. I'm sure some things are different now, but the circumstances are still the same. With a rain imminent we ran as fast as we could - even in the rain sometimes. Facing a full order book, waiting for perfect conditions wasn't even a possibility. Should any of my growers question such a decision I had to remind them it could be several days to a week or more before we could get back in the field, of course dependent on the amount of rain we got. I told them they make the decision, but if they let me roll I stood ready to do a re-spray or re-fertilize if the application failed. Confession - I did pick and choose who got the opportunity. It's all such a crap shoot. It's about temperature and humidity and growth stage and the adequacy of the spray equipment and so many more factors. Roll the dice.

I never got but a few call-backs. Probably should have been more, but the option to wait isn't such a great one either - at least in production ag. Oh, that rain-fast stuff on the label? It's valuable - if only to protect the chemical company. I don't exactly remember the translocation speed for glyphosate, but its much quicker than you might imagine. Ultra low volume applications weren't something we even knew about then...but it makes sense. And a good adjuvant makes a world of difference.

Was you application in water? We used UAN a lot and if the herbicide didn't do it, the liquid N sure did.

 

[Letmgrow]

As far as I know it was just water and 41% with a surfactant. I can ask though.
We had rain again all day yesterday. If it dries out some today I'll take a trip up to my hill fields. It's sort of slimy toward the top of the road going up. The road has been dug out and we're in the process of adding new crushed stone to make it easier on the trucks transporting the crops. This is on the farmer's dime. He says it's cheaper to repair the road than springs and other suspension parts in the trucks. Right now it's not a high priority as they will be running tractors and equipment and maybe just a pick up. It will be nice when it's done.
This is the first year this farm has leased my land. They aren't afraid to make improvements, especially with my friend and neighbor managing the operation of the farm.
I'll be seeing him this morning. I need to go to my machine shop and pick up a DT 466 cylinder head my son just rebuilt for one of the farm's tractors and I'll be taking it to the farm. He finished it late last evening so he's letting the paint dry overnight before it gets handled.

 

[Letmgrow]

I guess this sums things up. My friend checked all the fields yesterday morning. The weather could have been a little more cooperative since the fields were sprayed but there is no doubt there is a good kill even though there is some green visible.
They moved in with a large tractor early afternoon and started chisel plowing the field.. They have their stone picker standing by. They are going to need it. One corner of the field is at the bottom of a slight slope and under water. I can't see this posing a problem though. The tractor they are using is a Case International STX 275 8 wheeled tractor. Checking the field out last evening I started getting my GMC Suburban stuck but I stopped in time and was able to back out. This was in an area which hadn't been plowed yet so my tracks will be buried. They will be back today to finish the job.
I'm not sure when the field will be planted but I have a feeling it will be soon.

 

[Chainsaw]

As far as I know it was just water and 41% with a surfactant. I can ask though.
We had rain again all day yesterday. If it dries out some today I'll take a trip up to my hill fields. It's sort of slimy toward the top of the road going up. The road has been dug out and we're in the process of adding new crushed stone to make it easier on the trucks transporting the crops. This is on the farmer's dime. He says it's cheaper to repair the road than springs and other suspension parts in the trucks. Right now it's not a high priority as they will be running tractors and equipment and maybe just a pick up. It will be nice when it's done.
This is the first year this farm has leased my land. They aren't afraid to make improvements, especially with my friend and neighbor managing the operation of the farm.
I'll be seeing him this morning. I need to go to my machine shop and pick up a DT 466 cylinder head my son just rebuilt for one of the farm's tractors and I'll be taking it to the farm. He finished it late last evening so he's letting the paint dry overnight before it gets handled.

We went in 50/50 cost share with our logger to bring in gravel and a pipe crossing to a very inland log cut up area. It enabled the logging truck and the log buyers to get in and out without getting stuck AND without tearing up our tractor road. It was money well spent for both him and us. Every time we drive over it now we think wow-should have done this thirty plus years ago.

 

[Letmgrow]

I hear you Dave. The year before last the farmer who used to lease my fields had a sprayer come in to do my back field. The wheels on the sprayer were wider than the road. When they went over the culvert pipe I had out in the wheels on the sprayer collapsed the pipe on both ends. Last spring (2020) the road was flooded and washed out near the pipe. The farmer knew about the pipe and was going to do repairs but forgot about it. He had a company come in and dig out the old pipe, they used another section of pipe I had aquired some time ago and repaired all the damage to my road.
The road which is being done now is the one going up to the fields on the hill. I don't own the whole road. Most of the road is a deeded right of way and belongs to my neighbor who lives at the bottom of the road. I have his permission to redo the entire road from the highway all across his field bordering his lawn, up the hill to where my land starts. A benefit to him is this will cut down on the amount of dust caused by equipment going to and from the hill. This neighbor grew up on his family's farm and worked there until the farm was sold two years ago. Now he works for the farmer who bought the family farm. This is a big operation whose headquarters is down near you. I believe it's "Hillcrest Farm".
I love it when a plan comes together.

 

[Chainsaw]

Lynn, The world is large but in some ways small. Two of the guys in our deer hunting co-op are connected with Hill Crest Farms and land from Hill Crest borders us as well.