I don't understand him saying it will be a dwarf tree that needs staking. On M111 rootstock it should be a fairly large tree that is self supporting, or am I wrong? I was excited to find them on that rootstock. Of course he is the expert and I am a weekend warrior. I will be happy to get a few trees, I am thinking a few grafted on 118 rootstock would make nice trees if they produce heavy and hold late. Either way they look like a neat tree. Time will tell I guess.