Black locust?

pinetag

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Is this tree a black locust?
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I don't think so.....the seed pods remind me of catalpa...... Catalpa have a large leaf (like the size of your face type large) and produces a long almost green bean type seed pod but much longer that a typical green bean.


Black locust will have many small leaves and native one will have the branches covered with small thorns.

Do a search on the interwebs for pics of catalpa and black locust (especially the leaves) and you will see a significant difference......
 
I don't think so.....the seed pods remind me of catalpa...... Catalpa have a large leaf (like the size of your face type large) and produces a long almost green bean type seed pod but much longer that a typical green bean.


Black locust will have many small leaves and native one will have the branches covered with small thorns.

Do a search on the interwebs for pics of catalpa and black locust (especially the leaves) and you will see a significant difference......
I think you might be right and unfortunately they are pretty much worthless, unless I decide to cut it down in the future to use for fence posts. Evidently they are fairly rot resistant.

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My parent have 6 acres of wine grapes and all the posts are 4-8" black locust. The posts on the row ends are bigger. We peeled the bark with a draw knife, which is supposed to help with longevity. If someone has a vineyard in your area, they may cut and take em off your hands. They burn good and hot too.

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On a side note, Catalpa worms are fantastic for fishing, especially catfish. Collect them and freeze them. You can use at later dates.
 
On a side note, Catalpa worms are fantastic for fishing, especially catfish. Collect them and freeze them. You can use at later dates.
Yea, I found that while researching about it. I could grab a handful off the tree and just walk down to the river. LOL

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Definitely catalpa seed pods in the photos. I have several at the school where I work. Growing up, my friends who had catalpa trees on their grandparents farm had a thriving catalpa worm business going for several weeks each summer-bluegills destroyed them!



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I forgot to mention a black locust with produce a been pod more like a larger, flatter version of a soybean of like snow peas (similar to a red bud tree) as well. Neither (black locust or catalpa) has particular wildlife value that I am aware of.
 
Oh and not all catalpa trees have worms. My grandparents had two in their yard and for several years only one had worms. Now neither one does. We would collect as many as we could then divide them up into groups of 15-20 in a zip lock bag. Add a little bit of corn meal to the bag, shake to coat the worms and put the whole thing in the freezer. The corn meal keeps the worms from sticking together.


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Some claim deer will eat the seed pods. In my mind locust are a trash tree and must be destroyed.


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I agree that black locust is a nasty quick growing invasive tree with extreme thorns on one hand; on the other they grow the most rot resistant wood grow-able here. It is used here for replacing trailer boards, outside furniture, docks and fence posts. It is a legume that fixes nitrogen and its leaves have as much nutrients as alfalfa According to a Cornell study. In a stand of it overlooking the road here deer can often be seen bedding in it as it grows a high number of tree stems per acre. And their blooms are pretty spectacular as well.
 
Seeing a locust tree with it's thorns just makes my skin crawl thinking how bad that'd be in the dark. I destroy them all. Plus they will FUBAR a tractor tire.
 
Seeing a locust tree with it's thorns just makes my skin crawl thinking how bad that'd be in the dark. I destroy them all. Plus they will FUBAR a tractor tire.

I stuck one about a half inch in my hand once. That was not fun!

I’m fortunate that we own a forestry mulched so typically I go in and much them clear to the ground then go in and paste 40% roundup on remaining stump at ground level. They usually don’t come back after that. However if yuh leave them untreated they will.


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I'm fortunate enough to have both black and honey locusts in the area. The black locust thorns (if I have my id's right) aren't that bad, the honey locust are the huge multi branched suckers. None of them are good and should be killed on sight.
 
Black and honey are two different beasts as far as deer are concerned. Black locust pods are toxic.
 
Honey locust pods are sweet and delicious. As a side note, be careful how much of the "honey" you eat.... it WILL set you free:eek:.
 
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