White-tailed deer managers should focus on three concepts

Good summary. It really is that simple I believe. To the three though I would add one more "concept" that is applicable here and that is low pressure/security. Loose dogs, poachers/trespassers, some competing land uses and even some of us landowners in the way we hunt can cause deer to run off property and live elsewhere.
 
From the article...

"Unfortunately, many managers of free-ranging deer populations focus on and are distracted by superficial management practices such as food plots, mineral supplementation, buck culling, breeder bucks, stocking better genetics, harvesting certain age-classes of bucks, etc. Many of these practices are appropriate in penned-deer situations, but inefficiencies exist and limited progress occurs when managers of free-ranging deer focus on superficial issues rather than developing and maintaining excellent deer habitat, adequate doe harvest and conservative buck harvest."

I guess most of us are guilty of these QDM concepts I highlighted including the OP... I only need to add that with these additions to our property and the addition of water holes we are able to maintain a larger, healthier, deer herd than originally used our property...
 
It also says something to the effect of only harvesting one buck per four hundred acres. I don't manage four hundred acres making this impossible.
 
It also says something to the effect of only harvesting one buck per four hundred acres. I don't manage four hundred acres making this impossible.
I caught that one too...unrealistic for most of the country I would think...
 
I'm improvement with food plots and such so I'm sticking with it. I have heard mineral sites called in to question before but the way I see it they can't hurt and helps me get pictures of bucks using the properties.
 
Okie I would a agree to a certain extent. In Illinois we can not feed mineral supplements or food. We have to count on food plots to feed our deer in the winter when the crops are non-existent in the fields. Back in the old days combines dropped as much seed on the ground as what made it into the hopper, now a days there is not a kernel of corn laying on the ground. I don't believe in culling, breeder bucks and stocking genetics in a wild herd. It all is what the individual farm manager or landowner wants out of his/her herd. If you just want an abundance of wildlife cover and food is the key. If you want age structure like I shoot for then you will need #1 Cover, #2 Food/Water and #3 Low Pressure.

I find that cover is the #1 contributor on if a big old buck will call your place home in my region. Food is abundant all but the Late Fall / Winter months, mineral is in the ground as well as in the crops they feed on the majority of the year. But, If you have the food and the cover why would they leave. This is where the low pressure comes into play. If you have food and cover the only thing besides the rut that can move your herd off your property is pressure. If looking for older class age bucks they will not tolerate very much disturbance before they move on to the next property to hunker down. That is why I am such a stickler on trespassers on my farms. If I don't set foot on my own property except to check a camera once a month, plant a food plot in the spring and fall and hunt when all conditions are perfect then I dang sure don't want anyone else in there.
 
Well I admit I was pretty unimpressed. First paragraph started decent but really a rendition of what most have accepted for several decades. And while plotting or age selection of bucks is not the end all for habitat management it does have its affect especially in non ag areas. Supplemental food, whether it be in plots or moreso in large ag plantings, certainly improves the health of the herd. Yes proper herd numbers is important, and increase age contributes to more mature/larger racked bucks typically, prime food lands typically produce more top notch bucks than lands without that advantage/my area. This is exactly why few studies are done in non ag, forest type communities. They can't throw out these assumptions as easily when determining factors affecting herd management. I tired of this with the org many of us chose to just leave and made my complaints to them known, and I don't care to accept it from other orgs as well.

And then I have to read, and fall out of my chair laughing at the suggested possible needed buck kill / 400-1000ac. I actually reread it 3 times thinking I was too stupid and had to be misunderstanding. So myself and my 9 neighbors, with our combined total of 1000 ac, with a fairly heavy deer population, in a non ag area of mainly mixed age forest, are only allowed to kill one buck for year total?????!!!! Now I'm not sure of the thousands of ac of land they study, but I promise you , it sure as hell isn't near me.

I do know that natural browse is important, as is soft and hard mast, as is great cover, as is supplemental food by way of plantings, and constant evaluation of the herd numbers, ratio, and health, are all factors that can be manipulated to improve the health of a deer herd in any location. Guess I'm just not smart enough to get it.
 
Back in the old days combines dropped as much seed on the ground as what made it into the hopper, now a days there is not a kernel of corn laying on the ground.

BR ... you don't really believe that, do you? I live in one of the largest agricultural counties in the mid-west with average corn yields normally in excess of 240-270 bpa. Lots of farmers farming in excess of 2,000-3000 + acres with new (less than 3 yrs) John Deere / Cat combines. As a waterfowl hunter, I see a lot of corn fields during the fall after harvest and I'd bet my left $@2x* you can't find one totally devoid of kernels of corn. There are lots of reasons why waste grain is left in the field; equipment efficiency is only one among many. Not trying to start an argument; I just think your statement is a stretch. Carry on my friend.
 
BR ... you don't really believe that, do you? I live in one of the largest agricultural counties in the mid-west with average corn yields normally in excess of 240-270 bpa. Lots of farmers farming in excess of 2,000-3000 + acres with new (less than 3 yrs) John Deere / Cat combines. As a waterfowl hunter, I see a lot of corn fields during the fall after harvest and I'd bet my left $@2x* you can't find one totally devoid of kernels of corn. There are lots of reasons why waste grain is left in the field; equipment efficiency is only one among many. Not trying to start an argument; I just think your statement is a stretch. Carry on my friend.

You are absolutely correct on this Oakseeds. According to a John Deere Salesman one can expect the combine when run and set up perfectly to drop only three kernels per sq. ft. That comes out to around 130,710 kernels or about 92 lbs on my math--(math not as close to perfect these days). That is a lot of corn but it would look like almost nothing left in the field.

I have seen more combines not perfectly setup or perfectly run evidently; my best recollection on the last combined field I measured there were 18 kernels left per sq. ft. Evidently so many other factors come into play such as corn dryness and speed of combine. smoothness of field etc.

Dogghr on the one buck per thousand acres the paper basically said one buck to 400 to 1,000 acres but more in better grounds. Most of us have better grounds which just points out that each of our properties are different.

I didn't get out of the summary report that supplemental foods especially like food plots don't help the deer;it's simply not one of the top three criteria for success of a deer herd on the properties they used in their study. Where the study is conducted would make a huge difference. For example let's say it was in a non-AG area with no supplemental feed and mature timber and let's guess that that property produces 250 lbs or less of deer food per year per acre. Further let's guess the deer can eat half of it before it spoils or gets eaten by other wildlife. That leaves 125 lbs of deer food which means at 2500 lbs of food a year per deer four hundred acres would feed twenty deer (again watch out for my math) and a 3 to 1 doe to buck ratio would feed five bucks. So their numbers are understandable for that scenario.

In the scenario described food and doe to buck ratio are the limiting factors. So shooting some does and cutting timber would increase the amount of bucks the property could feed and as you pointed out supplemental feed would as well.

I think what the study is pointing out is that supplemental feed is less efficient and less effective than increasing natural feed and that natural food production is simply one of the three top priorities on the property studied. The study assumes that to be true elsewhere and on that I can't say except for my property;I believe it applies here. For this property I would add safety/no pressure as the fourth as I said before. Supplemental food would be in fifth place priority wise here.The study may incorrectly insinuate (sort of an exaggerated viewpoint on their own findings) that food plots are a waste of time when we all know that is not the case on most of our properties. It's just not in the three top priorities list for buck survival if the top three are taken care of.
 
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Perhaps I read more into it than I should. And in reality, I do agree with the premise that improvement of natural browse, good cover, reduced pressure, and proper herd number management are very important keys. And while, if they are referring to my limited number of food plots, I would agree it has minimal affect. But quality of surplus food, i.e., the corn, soybean, etc crops of thousands of ac in parts of the country certainly has a significant contribution to every aspect they mentioned form health to antler size. Certainly I wish it weren't so and I could be on same playing field as certain areas of NA.

No doubt age, cover, and numbers, have huge influences but the one factor is simply age of the deer. I can support that in the bow hunting only counties we have. For the most part no ag, to a large degree a mature forest. Very heavy poaching, heavy predation by dogs, yotes, bears, weather. But since the deer live in a very harsh area to hunt ( it can take me a 5 mile atv ride to get to stand) that area provides quality aged deer of both weight and antler size comparable to anywhere in the country I've hunted. No doubt in my mind, and many studies support it, that the one main factor of a buck showing its optimum potential is age. But in most areas of the country, the reality of older age bucks is slim, and I argue that in most areas that supplemental feed whether it be cropland, or other additions, does have a significant affect. We certainly all are not on the same playing field and foolish to think otherwise.

I just think the article assumes some kind of deer utopia/ one buck/1000 ac/ and leads only to frustration of hunters in many areas of the country. I'll agree with the authors premise, I just think he presents it out of touch with reality.
 
Dogghr, our regional biologist came out 3-4 years ago to see the property for doing a management plan. At that time we had I think 6:1 doe to buck from cam surveys and 10 acres of plots that were grazed tighter than a US open putting green. His plan came back with a buck per 400 acre and a doe per 100 acre recommendation. We have not followed those guidelines at all. I think they must teach that in biology school as a standard guideline that should work most places. Like was mentioned though our grounds are not most places.
 
I'll agree with the authors premise, I just think he presents it out of touch with reality.

Perfectly said...Author seems like he has contempt for food plots and age structures. In my area it is all mature forest with a few heavily grazed cattle pastures a mile or more away. The deer live in the timber since we live in a heavy poaching area and does pass down the instinct to stay out of the open on to their fawns. Deer in open = dead deer around us so luckily our ground is all wooded except a couple of food plots in the timber and from looking at the most recent aerials I can not identify any others in any direction for miles. Deer density is low due to the heavy hunting pressure, poaching, and lack of food sources but on our property over the past 2 years we have seen a bit of change since we purchased in January 2014. We were lucky right off the bat and without doing anything had mature bucks utilizing our property daily but we had very few does. I think I only really identified 2 that used our 80 for any amount of time at all. We ended up killing 3 bucks over 5.5 yr old that first fall and had many, many bucks left over. Hunting pressure seemed fairly light around our area at that time and I never really identified anyone actually hunting the properties that bordered us. We had 1 small food plot in 2014 and 1 waterhole.

In 2015 we installed a second food plot and waterhole and increased the size of the existing plot by 1/3. We had a lot less bucks and very few does utilizing our property but we had the wettest summer on record and there was forage and browse everywhere all summer long followed by the biggest acorn drop I have ever witnessed. Deer sightings were down but I still passed on several really good bucks just wanting to see what 1 more year would do. I noticed the poachers got started early in 2015 and the single high powered rifle shots at dawn and dusk were very common along our borders beginning in September of last year. 2 target bucks disappeared almost immediately and I fear "Brows" which was the highest scoring buck identified using our place was poached along our boundary. Muzzleloader and rifle season was extremely ramped up in our area for 2015. Doe sightings and buck sightings were overall down. Camera surveys showed most all of the mature bucks other than "Brows" made it through the seasons and into the late winter. I killed one of 3 wild boar hogs utilizing our place.

2016 so far...few buck sightings, no spikes or forkies at all and the youngest deer we have identified is 2.5 and our oldest is over 7.5 (Laid Back 9). Lots of does utilizing the property this summer, 7 fawns identified utilizing the place. More turkeys than I can ever remember. Plot usage is way up due to a very dry late summer with very little rainfall. Plotwatchers show as many as 11 deer at one time in our small clover plots. I killed both the other boar hogs and that in itself seems to have increased deer traffic. Acorn crop is fair for our area with perhaps 1 in 10 white oaks bearing this year and most all of the red oaks having acorns but red oaks are few and far between since oak wilt went through the area the last several years. I would say we have about 50 decent red oaks on the property. I would say from observation so far I expect a good hunting season on the place. I think with the increased doe herd to pull in several "stranger" bucks this fall. I think our acorn crop is just right for good hunter success. I believe we hold more does now due to the food plots that provide food in the slim times like late summer and winter. We have 2 target bucks utilizing our property daily right now and if they stay will make a few early season hunts nice just knowing they are there. I believe overall herd health is better because of the little we have done.

2017 (year of the chainsaw) - I am starting a timber thinning plan this winter but not utilizing a logger. Just removing as much Hickory as we can as it is the most common tree on the property and blocks the sun in huge areas of our woods. I hope to spray all the stumps to try to keep hickory regen to a minimum. I hope to build an actual fishing type pond and also a long dozed clearing will be added to the property to allow sunlight to the ground and break up the monotony of solid woods and create more edge. Clearing will be sewn with Red clover. I am hoping this makes our property even more attractive to the local wildlife.

It's a process...
 
Chainsaw already answered for me. Sorry Oakseeds I will be more literal in my next comment. My statement was made by trying to use today's equipment to equipment in the past comparison. Now a days you have to look around pretty hard to find kernels of corn laying on the ground. Back in the 80s you would find an abundance of corn left on the ground, usually a few whole ears etc. I have not found a whole ear on the ground for a several years now. As far as beans go, in years past a couple weeks after harvest if early enough in the year a field would look like it had been drilled in beans after harvest because of farmers combine losing seed. Or of course the many factors that you were speaking of, such as beans being too dry, too wet, etc, etc. And you aren't starting a fight with me because it was a stretch (i did not mean in a literal sense there was zero seeds left on the ground).

In my comment I made I was speaking of late season or winter when crops are harvested and fields are picked clean. The deer have to find other sources of food at that time. Which is the reason I leave standing beans with a turnip, brassica mix for them to eat on when everything else has been picked clean. 18 kernels per square foot would not leave enough corn laying in the fields to feed the herd from harvest through spring green up. With not just deer but many other critters feeding in that same food source.
 
Chainsaw already answered for me. Sorry Oakseeds I will be more literal in my next comment. My statement was made by trying to use today's equipment to equipment in the past comparison. Now a days you have to look around pretty hard to find kernels of corn laying on the ground. Back in the 80s you would find an abundance of corn left on the ground, usually a few whole ears etc. I have not found a whole ear on the ground for a several years now. As far as beans go, in years past a couple weeks after harvest if early enough in the year a field would look like it had been drilled in beans after harvest because of farmers combine losing seed. Or of course the many factors that you were speaking of, such as beans being too dry, too wet, etc, etc. And you aren't starting a fight with me because it was a stretch (i did not mean in a literal sense there was zero seeds left on the ground).

In my comment I made I was speaking of late season or winter when crops are harvested and fields are picked clean. The deer have to find other sources of food at that time. Which is the reason I leave standing beans with a turnip, brassica mix for them to eat on when everything else has been picked clean. 18 kernels per square foot would not leave enough corn laying in the fields to feed the herd from harvest through spring green up. With not just deer but many other critters feeding in that same food source.

Back in the late 80s my parents used to rent out a little land in exchange for a calf. After they harvested the corn, I would go out with a five gallon bucket and fill it up with cobs of corn that were on the ground. Not to many places you could do that today. Some smaller farmers are still using old equipment, but I would think any of the big corporate type farms fields would be pretty clean.
 
Back in the late 80s my parents used to rent out a little land in exchange for a calf. After they harvested the corn, I would go out with a five gallon bucket and fill it up with cobs of corn that were on the ground. Not to many places you could do that today. Some smaller farmers are still using old equipment, but I would think any of the big corporate type farms fields would be pretty clean.

I agree we used to do the same thing. We would fill 5 gallon buckets and throw into our feed grind for our cattle.
 
Unfortunately, many managers of free-ranging deer populations focus on and are distracted by superficial management practices such as food plots, mineral supplementation, buck culling, breeder bucks, stocking better genetics, harvesting certain age-classes of bucks, etc. Many of these practices are appropriate in penned-deer situations, but inefficiencies exist and limited progress occurs when managers of free-ranging deer focus on superficial issues rather than developing and maintaining excellent deer habitat, adequate doe harvest and conservative buck harvest.

It is important to understand the historical context of the 100 mile radius area in the southern great plains to better understand the article. This area saw much homesteading activity prior to 1950. Homesteading activity (fire, thinning and clearing for fuel wood, plowing, grazing etc) begets disturbance which creates excellent wildlife habitat due to the increase in plant diversity at ground level. Increasing urban labor opportunities and improved urban living conditions after 1950 saw people leaving the farm to live and work in the cities. Continuous grazing practices leading to overgrazing/ diversity loss and excess tillage which degraded soil finally took their toll on land productivity. Less time and effort were available for farm tasks which keep brush/invasive plant encroachment in check (ie livestock grazing declined,fuel wood was replaced with alternate energy, commercial farming began etc) and degraded lands still carried low value. During the 80s to present wide scale brush encroachment has occurred in areas which are traditionally non-hardwood ecoregions.....SCS recommended replacing degraded range with tame perennial forages such as Bermuda and fescue, eastern red cedar and other invasive plant encroachment occurred in western native range land, fire suppression and lack of fuel wood clearing in the east saw the oak savannah replaced with closed canopies of elm, cedar, juniper, hickory and other low value species, and land prices have inflated so much that it is hard for the average man to restore land productivity economically. Considering all of that in whole, the productivity of a whole ecosystem has become degraded Since 1980, brush control and suppression has been a huge issue for many acres simply to restore land functionality and productivity. During the 80s there was a large scale spurt of brush control (aerial timber spraying) in the east which has since waned excepting some large operations, ERC removal in the west is now a hot topic, and prescribed fire use is now a right protected by law. Some properties are now being improved but a large proportion remain abandoned, non-disturbed, and in a steady state of habitat quality decline. There is little choice other than to preserve this ecosystem through regenerative land efforts.

Folks, all of that history is nice to know but it doesn't change the fact that we are dealing presently with a degraded low value land resource but the actual cost of land and land improvement are high. That fact isn't going to change unless landscape and regional scale efforts are undertaken to restore soil function, watershed function, and provide the diverse habitat which wildlife require by using economical tools.

The most economical tools ($/ac/hr) for restoration are prescribed fire, tree thinning/removal, and planned livestock grazing. All of those tools are socially acceptable while still debated at times. "Quote, Developing and maintaining excellent deer habitat, adequate doe harvest and conservative buck harvest"...... are economical practices we must employ and train our children to use in the future! Do the aforementioned goals not fall in line with restoration of degraded land?...economically?....socially?...ecologically?

What tasks are being taught and promoted to many average income land managers? "Quote, Unfortunately, many managers of free-ranging deer populations focus on and are distracted by superficial management practices such as food plots, mineral supplementation, buck culling, breeder bucks, stocking better genetics, harvesting certain age-classes of bucks, etc."
Please tell me how any of the afore mentioned tasks/tools are going to restore function of a region with degraded land and soil?....economically?....socially? They won't....each fail miserably socially, economically and ecologically!

The main problem is in our mind....many cannot separate the important from the unimportant! Do we need 'tenets of QDM' or do we need 'tenets of common sense'?

In spite of degrading habitat conditions, OK saw a boom in deer populations from the late 80s through late 90s. Why was that? Was is because of QDM?....conservation efforts?....crackdown on poaching/illegal activity?....technology?...increased fawn predator trapping?...wildlife food plots?....mineral supplements?....buck culling?....new deer genetics?....all those combined? I think it is much simpler and due to one primary undeniable fact...the deer boom in OK paralleled a historic climatic shift of above average statewide rainfall from about 1984 to 2002....that is the LONGEST wet period ever recorded for the majority of that 100 mile radius area!


Here is the link for above pic...see for yourself:
http://climate.ok.gov/index.php/cli...l_statewide/CD00/prcp/Annual/oklahoma_climate

What are the major consequences of above average rainfall in the southern great plains?...1) increased animal numbers and carrying capacity, and 2) increased rate of brush encroachment with loss of herbaceous plant diversity!

Is it not reasonable to believe the next deer DOOM will be the opposite of conditions for a BOOM? 1) too much brush present with too little herbaceous plant diversity and 2) too many animals for the carrying capacity? Do we now already see that very thing in other parts of the country?

So what is really important to sustain increased animal numbers and habitat quality in the future given unknown amounts of dry and wet periods? Restoring a native ecosystem which is resilient and resistant to climatic stress....through 1) decreasing brush encroachment rate to increase native plant diversity, and 2) keeping the female part of the herd in balance with climatic trend! Have fun....shoot whatever buck you want....just don't let greed and bragging rights make you shoot too many! Very simple management tenets!

Folks, focus on the 'important' for your ecosystem not the 'unimportant'.....teach your offspring the same! Each ecosystem differs...your's may differ from the article....that article covers about 3-4 ecosystems within 100 mile radius which have a few issues in common!

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Buck densities will vary by area....so it is reasonable to assume different properties even adjoining ones may have different buck harvest criteria.. The context of the 1 buck harvest per 400-1000ac is to promote the continued presence of a record deer scoring above BnC minimum....that type of deer in normally less than 3% of the buck population in our area (and maybe yours?). The author and his consultant team recognize many types of management according to goals of the property manager....from those wanting no deer to those wanting trophies and all in between. I've underlined the context of that statement for you. Use some common sense....is it possible for some niche areas to produce more than one BnC deer per year?...yes!.....all areas of a region?...NO

Conservative buck harvest is important for goals emphasizing abundant bucks or large antlers. Age of bucks harvested is less important than total number of bucks harvested. When bucks with large antlers is an important goal, generally less than 15 percent of the buck standing crop should be harvested annually.Depending upon deer density, adult sex ratio and fawn crop, buck harvest rates for this goal are commonly only one buck per 400 to 1,000 acres. Buck harvest rates outside this range may be appropiate in atypical situations such as very productive habitats, distorted sex ratios, etc. Free-ranging bucks tend to grow larger each year they live, and it takes many years for a buck to grow his largest set of antlers.

The only thing I will say about buck ageing is that is poorly estimated (low accuracy) with current methods trying to predict actual age to the year! Current methods are most accurate to separate an adult vs a juvenile. So why spend the time and effort trying to age something which is know to be measured with known poor accuracy? IS that to justify a kill more kills? So we are basing management decisions on age which is poorly estimated to begin with? Remember.....the Noble Foundation did a jaw bone aging test at one of the SE deer study groups which showed high inaccuracy.....and QDM had fits about that!

You know....we mess around quite a bit with livestock where age is actually known (a unique ear tag for each animal and a purchase receipt)....and age based on cow tooth wear or cow body conformation can be guessed....you might be quite surprised to know that actual cow age to the year is poorly estimated from tooth wear or how she looks.....they damned sure ain't all built the same....your estimate can be way off! I'm calling BS when folks claim to age live deer (which are not uniquely marked) with an acceptable degree of accuracy and confidence!

Low harvest and aging.....it can be really simple.....shoot 1 buck a year of your choice and be happy.....the bucks which you didn't shoot may be walking around next year and they will be a year older! If a buck is a BnC or that weird antlered one you find neat or that one you don't see very often and you are happy.....do you honestly care how old he is? You found happiness with your wife because of happiness within yourself...did it matter how old she was (within legal reason)...did you request her birth certificate to make damned sure before proposing with a ring? What matters most about buck harvest?....your happiness...not your friends opinion....just you!
 
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