Urban flight to rural land

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  1. lakngolf

    lakngolf Well-Known Member

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    The comfort of the cab tractor is so nice, and great for big field work. For smaller operations I just feel like I am disconnected with the equipment when in a cab. With my small tractor and open air I can better tell what is happening behind me. Well, I used to be able to do that when I was limber enough to turn my body and look!!
     
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    I concur with the cab thing…wishing I’d done it sooner as well. For our smaller woods plots, the smaller open cab is still indispensable.

    Prices on land have risen substantially in the Catskills. We paid $1k per acre in the fall of 2013. It’s probably doubled. Still, as I look at prices in other states, it remains a bargain considering its 3hrs out of Gotham. Yes, the taxes are insane….as are the statewide politics given downstate voting numbers. Fortunately, upstate politics are very different. We are committed here for the foreseeable future. Indeed, I’d pay a premium to pick up the lands adjacent to our 200 acres just to protect what we have.

    Our area was the beneficiary of grants facilitating the installation of fiber optics to create additional business opportunities. I fully expect the flight to rural areas to continue as remote working becomes more permanent in Gotham. Folks who’ve lived in NYC for generations are continuing to flee to avoid worsening inner city troubles.

    Gotham has changed…and I don’t see it improving anytime soon. I’m content to worry whether the bears are getting into the dumpster again, and waking up to the sound of gobbling Toms.
     
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    This was the biggest change for me^^^^

    The lack of ambient audio performing tasks was uncomfortable when i first drove the cab tractor

    bill
     
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    I have two open cab tractors. Got to admit, I wouldnt mind a cab for spraying. But overall, if someone gave me a cab tractor, I would be looking to trade it tomorrow on an open cab. I do some offshore fishing on occasion. Used to have my own boat, but Katrina took her, so now I charter. I never charter a boat with AC in the salon. I dont want anyone sitting in the salon in the cool and miss the action. If you are going to do that, stay in the hotel. When I am on my tractor, I am the same way. If you need to be in a controlled climate while you are working your land - might as well stay at the house. ;)
     
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    Cab tractor sure is nice when accidentally mowing over a hornets nest and they are in attack mode, so I've heard. . Ive had both, love the cab. Rain, snow, heat, cold, make no diff in what I want to do.
     
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    Glad you can get your timber cut. I've been trying for a year and unless you have 500 ac to cut, they won't bother talking. Most our timber/red/chestnut oak go to China and its been booming with prices thru the roof.
     
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    Same here. Love the cab...really love it. But it's weird not being able to hear/sense what is going on behind the tractor. As far as turning your head...I hate pulling up to an intersections these days at a 45 degree angle. Contortion.
     
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  8. Triple C

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    Seems that's the case all over the country. I bought my original tract of land at the end of 2010, following the great recession. Part of my reason for buying was not for habitat/timber/wildlife management but rather to diversify my investment portfolio after watching my stock/mutual fund/401K tank during that period. Rural land went down but not anywhere near what the market did. As it turns out, the market recovered, rural land prices have drastically increased, and timber in my case, turned out to be a nice revenue generator that can go on for generations.

    In the end, owning land turned out to be so much more than what I imagined going in to it. And, a great investment as well. Like you, I'd love to pick up the adjoining land when and if it becomes available but dang, hate to pay today's prices.
     
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    Swampcat, I recall telling my son on my first tractor purchase that I wanted open station to experience the full outdoor effect. Come August/September, I'd have to quit mowing by noon due to the heat and wear a mask due to the dust. After a couple of mowings with the cab, I ain't hopping back on the open station for mowing fields.
     
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    Glad that's not the case down here. Logging crew just finished the clear cut. They are now thinning the 110 acres of 22 yr old loblolly. Headed down this afternoon to check the progress on the thinning. 2nd thinning on these pines to a basal of around 50 to 60. I'll take a few pics and post.
     
  11. SwampCat

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    I am not going to say it is all fun and games in an open cab. It gets hot where I am - 30 miles from the Texas state line. And I have come in hot and dusty many a time. I have a piece of property 8 road miles away that I drive to on my tractor six or eight times a year - and some mornings can be pretty chilly. I have some time in a cab tractor - I cant hear the equipment, I cant see as well, and I would hate to put it in some of the places I do that are brushy, thick with trees, etc. My wife bought me some ear buds for when I was on the tractor - I wont even use them. I typically dont spend long hours on a tractor - between my two tractors, probably about 250 hrs a year. I live on my place and can usually choose my times of work - I am not going out and work in the rain if I can help it. There probably are not more than a couple times a year when I spend 8 hrs in a day on a tractor. My next door neighbors are cattlemen. They work all day everyday. They cant work around weather. I would have a cab tractor if I was them. Of the 250 hrs a year I spend on a tractor, half is on a little 28 hp JD back in the woods trails bush hogging, spraying, clearing logs and trees out of the trails, spreading seed or fertilizer with a spreader - that kind of thing so much easier on a small tractor than my 65 hp JD. Not even sure you can get a cab on a 28 hp tractor - it would look like a house on top a lawnmower. I do have a canopy on my 65 hp.


    I put 1200 miles a year on my polaris ranger - all on my 350 acres. I dont have an enclosed cab on it. Even took the windshield off - it does have a roof - and I am out in it some in bad weather - hunting.


    Each to his own - I guess that is why they make both. ;)
     
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    I drove polaris for 15 years..... switched to kawasaki mule in 2020......will never go back!!

    bill
     
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    I’d love to have a cab tractor for September. That’s when my bushhogging gets done and the yellowjackets are angrier than Elizabeth Warren. That Tyvek suit and beekeepers outfit gets HOT!


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    I ran heavy equipment for the first half of my working life. Believe me, I’ve eaten enough dust, sniffed enough pollen, and dodged enough bees, wasps, and hornets to last me a lifetime.:mad: No open cab for me, ever again !:)
     
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    I had a neighbor with a kawasaki mule - it was rough as a cob and plenty of front end trouble. Basic model. I have a good friend with a honda 700 and he advised his dad to get a ranger after riding in mine ranger. I have a canam commander 1000 - it is a living POS. I also have the ranger - three yes old with 3500 miles on it. Best riding, quietest, most trouble free sxs I have personally owned - yet. My cattle ranching neighbor drives only yamaha and always gets over 10,000 miles on them - had one that went 18,000 - through mud and water like I drive through half the year. If my ranger doesnt give me another 5000 miles of relatively trouble free service, the yamaha will probably be my next purchase. I know guys who are always bragging about their ride - trail riding in the hills. That is completely different than living in the bottomland mud like mine does. Lots of days with water running in the drivers door and out passenger door. Point being - compare apples to apples and any of them can be great or a dog.
     
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    I’ve never owned a tractor but definitely leaning towards getting a cab when I take the plunge. Yellow jackets are a huge factor for my line of thinking. They were horrible last summer.


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    We dont have many yellow jackets or other stinging insects. Got into some bumble bees once in 40 years. I can sure understand a cab if you spend a thousand hours a yr on your tractor and dont mind beating the cab to death in the woods. For 150/200 hours a year, I just dont see it - especially in the south where eight months out of the year it is pretty dang pleasant. But, if you have extra money you dont need burning a hole in your pocket I get that, too. When I bought my 65 hp tractor six years ago, the money I saved on the open cab bought a set of pallet forks, a 7’ Frontier Bush Hog, and a 7’ Woods Seeder. Also, if you have mostly open field type work, that is something else, too. I spend a fair bit of time in the woods trails and clearing duck holes, etc - something you definitely dont want a cab tractor in. I have a couple food plots I cant get into with my 65 hp JD that I have to access with my little JD 790.
     
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    I’ll definitely need something small for my mountain wooded trails and steep plots.


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    Around here there is lots of negativity towards Polaris, it seems every owner has their story. Their wiring used to be very suspect, 15 years ago my farmer friend bought a new Ranger, a week out of warranty he parked in front of the farmhouse for a late breakfast, several minutes later he looked out and it was engulfed in flames.
    Yamadog seems to be about the most reliable.
     
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    I predicted when the shutdown started that the end result of covid was going be the dollar amount of everything doubling. Our elected leaders wanted to do this doubling for a long time, and they will double again if they can. The reason for this is that doubling the dollar amount of everything effectively cuts our national debt in half, so then, they can go and spend, or give away 28 trillion dollars all over again. I mention this not to get all political here, but to point out that this is the new reality, don't expect the prices of land (or anything else) to go back down again.
     

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