To plant grafted persimmon or hybrid oaks?

[split toe]

I have a spot I am going to plant some trees around a food plot and I am debating on multiple types of grafted persimmon vs some hybrid oaks from Nativ Nursery, thoughts?

 

[jteeen]

I plantes over 150 persimmon on Rocky soil. Tubed them all. 75% died and 5 years later a handful are out of the top of 5' tubes.

If you have good soil and cage them, i think they could be good and will produce faster than most oaks. You need more than a few to draw in deer reliably.

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[willy]

I have 7 year olf grafted persimmons on good heavy clay soil that are have been producing for the past 3 years. They've grown well and someday will be great draws. I may not see it but someday that will be the case. They will produce much faster than oaks in my opinion.

 

[Mennoniteman]

Did you consider pears? Way faster return than oaks and a great whitetail draw.

 

[split toe]

Did you consider pears? Way faster return than oaks and a great whitetail draw.

I already have about 28 fruit (pears, apples, crabs) from the wildlife group. Looking to diversify. I have more fruit trees coming in December. Those fruit trees are really a hot spot when dropping.

 

[Mennoniteman]

Chestnuts produce faster than oaks and are also a top draw...

 

[split toe]

Chestnuts produce faster than oaks and are also a top draw...

Haha I have read your mind. I also have chestnuts out as well, but they appear to be droppers around late september and I need something into October. I tried the buck chestnuts from The Wildlife Group but had multiple issues and never had one survive.

 

[weekender21]

I'd do both but that's just me. If you want diversity then why not?

What time of year are you trying to provide mast? That's an important factor too.

 

[Mennoniteman]

Haha I have read your mind. I also have chestnuts out as well, but they appear to be droppers around late september and I need something into October. I tried the buck chestnuts from The Wildlife Group but had multiple issues and never had one survive.

On October 22 I stopped in at the Sideling Hill Overlook and Rest Area along RT 68 in Maryland and noticed a row of healthy looking 7" diameter chestnut trees dropping loads of chestnuts, which quickly caught my full attention. Chestnut trees this young producing that heavy, on October 22nd seemed like a rare find, so I quickly filled a 20 oz cup with nuts. Now I'm in business to start some trees of my own...

 

[split toe]

I'd do both but that's just me. If you want diversity then why not?

What time of year are you trying to provide mast? That's an important factor too.

October/November

 

[weekender21]

October/November

That might be a difficult time to cover with oaks and persimmon, in my area anyway. You’re probably on the right track with a “Mid season” dropping hybrid. Our native whites and reds are done by 01 October. I’m filling those dates with apples and pears but definitely understand the need for diversity.


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