Spraying clover this late?

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  1. split toe

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    I was going to spray some clover with Imox, but was wondering if I should just wait until spring as late as it already is?
     
  2. OkieKubota

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    Our clover is all dormant now...heat and no rain will do that...
     
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    Wait until it starts raining again, like maybe a late August spraying. You will kill the midsummer weed species in your clover that aren't there in the spring.
     
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    In my experience ,when clover goes dormant, you can use/spray what ever you want and you won't hurt the clover.
     
  5. X-farmerdan

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    I like mowing maybe a little later toward mid August....but, I'm going to spray a couple patches asap because I have a bad case of smartweed. If I don't get it out its going to go to seed (not good) and the vines will choke my clover. Imox, yes
     
  6. StrungOutOutdoors

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    Ive recently hit mine with Cleth. And mow strips in it once a month. Weve had a lot of rain this summer though
     
  7. Tap

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    What weeds are you trying to kill? It's the weeds that dictate when spraying should be done. Too early? Too late? Just right? Let the weeds tell you when to spray them, and the answer to that depends on the variety of weed.
     
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    If the grass or weeds are green and growing they can be killed. If they are going dormant, it might be too late. Perennial grasses might be easier killed when they green up with late summer/fall rains. Keep in mind most herbicides have max weed height limits per application rates. Sometimes you can up the rate, but be careful not to injure the clover too much.
     
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    If its grasses, use cleth. Broadleaf's can be fought back with mowing
     
  10. X-farmerdan

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    IMG_2415 (1).jpg IMG_2422 (1).PNG IMG_2421 (1).jpg IMG_2420.jpg IMG_2419.jpg IMG_2418.jpg IMG_2417.jpg For the sheer folly and entertainment. Today, I sprayed a perpetual (correct) clover patch with IMOX 12.1% concentrate (ammonium salt of imazamox). I mixed one once of concentrate, 2 oz of crop oil in about 150 oz of water to spray a tenth of an acre of clover. The patch is quit weedy, but I can live with everything in it but the smartweed. See the pictures. Left alone it will choke the clover from the patch. Mowing just encourages it to grow flat across the ground. It's late. I get it, but the risk is worth the reward. There was an imminent threat of thunderstorms. But it didn't. The temperatures was 82-degrees. The relative humidity was 68% and the winds were 8 -10 mph. More News next week....
     
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    You know, I have used LIGHT doses of glyphosate across my clover plots and they didn't budge. The weeds died slower than a usual gly burn down, but they died. I don't recommend anyone to go spraying gly though , but clovers are very tough
     
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    Imox only works on young weeds. I doubt your weeds are small this time a year so it is very likely that you will be disappointed in the herbicide application.
     
  13. X-farmerdan

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    UPDATE:
    Just five days have passed since I sprayed this small clover patch with IMOX. I think it's headed in the right direction...
    oVERVIEW.jpg cLOSECOMBINED1.png CLOSECOMBINED2.png
     
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    Are they really dead? Some weeds like Canada Thistle, top-kill fairly easy. We hit them with a variety of herbicides that are not really getting down and deep for a good root kill and they just root sprout. I've lived that with CA for years. I thought I was killing it, but util you completely kill the deepest of the roots, the stuff is still alive and lurking.
     
  15. X-farmerdan

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    I'm pleased! In review, on July 23rd I spray IMOX on a clover kill plot seeded last fall with on a hail Mary and a prayer. This patch and a couple others in the same two fields frequently get flooded. The ten acres on the backside of the farm are food plots rather than crop fields for this reason. It's a gamble. The biggest weed problem is smartweed. If you've never had to deal with it consider your self lucky. It got me again this year. With the acquisition price of IMOX reasonable I decided to give it a try this late. If it doesn't work the clover is toast.

    It's hard to use pictures to compare, but I think you can get the idea. Details in in a couple of posts above. It's still not pretty, but I think we're in a position, now, out-compete the remaining weeds.

    I don't know how to move this pictures around...
    Picture August 6, 2018. I didn't spray around the camera post on July 23rd just to have a "control" to compare.
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    August 6, 2018. Lower there's a picture of "before..." Not exactly this spot, but you'll get the idea.
    blrniceclover.jpg blfclover.jpg blfclover.jpg

    This is fairly typical of what the clover plot looked like on July 23rd - before being sprayed.
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    August 6, 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>July 23, 2018
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  16. split toe

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    What mixture rate did you use on the Imox?
     
  17. X-farmerdan

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    This.......
     
  18. split toe

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    Alrighty
     
  19. X-farmerdan

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    Last one. IMOX did its job. Sprayed clover on July 28th. Today (August 25th) the results are in.
    But first, this is what it looked like May 20th-
    Picture3.jpg

    And on July 7th -
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    Smartweed was about to choke the life out of the clover (where is the clover?).

    The plot was sprayed with IMOX on July 29th because it looked like this -
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    And this -
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    Today, it looks like this -
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    And this - 6.jpg

    And this - 9.jpg

    Hallelujah!
     
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    Recommended rate is 5 oz per acre, and you used 2 oz per 1/10th acre? Wow.
     

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