Jeff H
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I'm not planning on a e-fence, but was curious what your beans and fertilizer cost was was a 3/4 acre bean plot.
Small plot of soybeans ???
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Satguy
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My cost on 1 acre of Soybeans is $10. You can join NWTF for $35 annually and then buy seed they offer.
Soybeans 50# $10
RR Corn 50# $37.50
Forage sorghum 50# $10
whiskeybent
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Probably $150 for fertilizer and a bag of Eagle beans.
Blizzard Ridge
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Jeff I agree and disagree with planting a bean plot that will fail. I agree it could make some nice summer food and that would be a success. I disagree if the deer mow the bean plants down as they pop out of the ground. If they are mowing the beans down before they establish they really aren't getting much food from the plot and you will be left with a weedy dirt pile to deal with at the end of the summer. If the beans do not reach canopy before they are mowed down you have nothing keeping the SL at bay. Although a test strip would be fun, if your deer like beans like my deer do it won't make it out of the ground before it is wiped out. There is only one way to find out for sure though.
Jeff H
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Wow your beans are a lot cheaper than what I found. I priced Eagle beans locally at $72.64/bag and Brad at Eagle recommended 2 bags so $145.28 for beans.
Jeff H
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Blizzard, When I typed out that post it was not directly in response to your earlier response. I should have made that clear. It was just something that popped into my head so I threw it out there. If I sounded argumentative I apologize. That was not my intent.
From reading and re-reading all of the post your original assessment of "throwing them out the window" was probably spot on! I can be hard headed when I want to accomplish something and this is no exception. The horse is down and I'm still beating it. I cut my teeth bow hunting bean field bucks in Western Tn and I really would love to do that on my place. However, the logical part of my brain, as small as it can be some times, is not going to let me spend money on something that will in all likelihood not work out the way I want it to.
Thanks for your honest opinion and those of everyone else. I love this forum for those reasons. You guys are the best !
Jeff
I agree with any posts above that propose a 1 acre bean field will likely fail.You may get some growth but once deer figure it out the gigs up.
Here is another option to consider. Look at aeschynomeme or deer vetch. It can show vigorous growth all summer and take heavy pressure all summer. It will last till frost also providing late summer forage when most things are done. That may also meet your bowhunting interest. You can broadcast fall small grains , clover and even chicory into it and have success.
Deer vetch is one of my favorite summer crops. Deer love it. If allowed to go to seed it can become a reseeding annual as I've kept plots going over a decade. Doesn't hurt that the biggest buck I ever took off the farm lived in a deer vetch field all summer. You can find it at Hancock seed.
Here is another option to consider. Look at aeschynomeme or deer vetch. It can show vigorous growth all summer and take heavy pressure all summer. It will last till frost also providing late summer forage when most things are done. That may also meet your bowhunting interest. You can broadcast fall small grains , clover and even chicory into it and have success.
Deer vetch is one of my favorite summer crops. Deer love it. If allowed to go to seed it can become a reseeding annual as I've kept plots going over a decade. Doesn't hurt that the biggest buck I ever took off the farm lived in a deer vetch field all summer. You can find it at Hancock seed.
Jeff H
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My plan was to try throw and mow with beans. I can't find anyone that has tried that and maybe there's a good reason for that. I do love to experiment and I have always enjoyed accomplishing things done in a way that no one else has done. I'd still like to know if beans can be grown using the throw and mow method.
"IF" you have a heavy enough thatch "AND" you plant at a heavier than normal rate and you get timely rains you"MIGHT" get a stand of beans up. "IF" the deer have never seen beans they "MAY" make a few leaves before being wiped out. IMO a poor return on effort and money spent with negligible impact on the deer.
Back to deer vetch. It is a very small seed that will germinate simply with soil contact and will work with throw and mow. It isn't the best for very sandy soils but can handle normal to wetter soils. If you soil is sandy consider Alyce clover which is planted in the spring. Has a all the same virtues as deer vetch but isn't quite as preferred .
Back to deer vetch. It is a very small seed that will germinate simply with soil contact and will work with throw and mow. It isn't the best for very sandy soils but can handle normal to wetter soils. If you soil is sandy consider Alyce clover which is planted in the spring. Has a all the same virtues as deer vetch but isn't quite as preferred .
Jeff H
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Thanks Baker. Is that the same as Hairy vetch ? I tried a small area of hairy vetch last year 1/4 acre. It did not do very well but that may have been my fault not the plant. I remember it being expensive seed.
NO, completely different. Aeschynomene is not really a vetch though common names include deer vetch or joint vetch. It is also planted in the spring as an annual though as mentioned will reseed under proper conditions. I do not think you will get reseeding on 1 acre.Joint vetch is an expensive seed but it will grow on 1 acre even with significant pressure. That makes it cheaper than whatever beans cost which will most likely fail. Again, you can educate yourself and purchase appropriate quantities from Hancock seed .
I've been planting and using it for years and is a terrific compliment to a very diverse and extensive food plot system.High in protein, highly digestible and highly preferred. One of my favorite cultivars.
Jeff H
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Thanks again Baker. I just pulled up Hancock Seed site. I've got much to read and more to learn. Thanks for your input.
Jeff
shawn cox
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you can plant beans with throw n mow it works I have done it and I know others that have. it all depends on the right timing with rain but it does work
Jeff H
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John do you plant your chicory in the Spring or have you ever planted it in the Spring ?
Jeff H
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Great, Thanks !
Doe Shooter
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Rural King was selling Gly tolerant beans 50# $25.00 this spring.
Plot survival is dependent on deer density and desirable food sources in the surrounding area. I have hunting property 100 miles north of my primary home near St. Louis. I have small creek bottom acreage behind my primary home plant under 25,000 square feet. I
plant beans. They don't get wiped out until after the local fields are harvested. Based on my camera survey/guess I'd I have maybe 6-12 deer in the area that use my plots. They are cheap enough to replant if needed. Plant beans and broadcast crimsom at the same time for progression. I like your attitude. Think outside the box . I rely on annuals, beans, crimsom, cowpeas,WR, brassicas,AWP. IMO perennial clovers are too much work , fade in the summer heat , and require too many expensive chemicals.
Just my 2 cents
Doe Shooter
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I did something similar with cow peas last year .I;m going to do more this year.
http://deerhunterforum.com/index.php?threads/roller-peas.833/
