He is 8 months old and every 60 days you will see him mature. Stay with the hold conditioning and he will develop the right habit. When he drops one at your feet - what does he do then - run off - look at you - want some praise? Some trainers recommend slowly the dog down by having them sit with the antler in their mouth. At 8 months of age we are more concerned about developing the correct habit than setting a course record. If you have the dog hold the antler in a sit position and then when the dog is incoming and you have them sit you will soon see him nail it. With Perry I keep both hands behind my knees so he don't see them. I drop my hands down and come up to his mouth to get the antler - he never sees my hands coming. When dog anticipates they can get in a hurry and sort of throw the antler at you because they have forward movement from moving fast. Scotty likes his nose in the air and holds antlers better when his nose is up. I can take an antler from in an erect standing position most times. I say in 30 days you will have it solved. June 2nd at Norm Henderson's Farm. Perry, Scotty and I are going.