Piper (The Swiss Army Knife)

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  1. wbpdeer

    wbpdeer Well-Known Member

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    He is 8 months old and every 60 days you will see him mature. Stay with the hold conditioning and he will develop the right habit.

    When he drops one at your feet - what does he do then - run off - look at you - want some praise? Some trainers recommend slowly the dog down by having them sit with the antler in their mouth. At 8 months of age we are more concerned about developing the correct habit than setting a course record.

    If you have the dog hold the antler in a sit position and then when the dog is incoming and you have them sit you will soon see him nail it.

    With Perry I keep both hands behind my knees so he don't see them. I drop my hands down and come up to his mouth to get the antler - he never sees my hands coming. When dog anticipates they can get in a hurry and sort of throw the antler at you because they have forward movement from moving fast.

    Scotty likes his nose in the air and holds antlers better when his nose is up. I can take an antler from in an erect standing position most times.

    I say in 30 days you will have it solved. June 2nd at Norm Henderson's Farm. Perry, Scotty and I are going.
     
  2. PineSapJunky

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    Training has restarted at the house in hope to get the dogs whipped into shape for their June 2nd hunt test. Oberon has amazing drive when he is focused but wants to please. I am having issues with his hold and delivering to hand but we are working on that. He has an amazing prey drive and I am using that to my advantage. I am working him on the table regular as they do when trainers "force fetch" a dog. I'm just doing it without the stimulus. He's coming around. I'm not worried about him finding the sheds. Just delivering them to my hand. As for Piper she cruises the courses like she's been doing it for a lifetime. Steady and confident is the best way to describe her.

    Traveling with two large dogs has presented a challenge for us. I know in the past throwing the dog in the back of a pickup truck or car and going was the way to go. My wife's SUV is out of the question. It's too nice of a car to have dogs in and out of constantly. Especially considering the weather we've ran in on these hunts. Plus it is 2wd and 4wd had come in handy more than once on these tests. We looked into getting a 4wd suburban to travel in but who wants a $900 a month payment? The most economical and practical solution for us was to by a dog box and travel in my truck. Its 4wd, comfortable on long trips and the kids can all sit in the back if we decide to drag them with us. After a little research and a lot of recommendations from people who have them I went with an Owen's dog box. I like the welded aluminum. I really wanted one with the draw underneath but ended up going with a top storage. It has all season vents so the dogs will be comfortable in the summer and warm during the winter. Piper already chose her side. I will keep everyone up to date. Thanks for following[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    2019 NASHDA Hunt Test in Carlisle Indiana Update:

    Loaded up the dogs at 6am Friday morning in their new dog box. Just so you know there might be a better way to travel with dogs but I won't look for one. Having them and their stuff all in one, safe, secure location is awesome. Made the 11 hour and 640 mile drive to Washington Indiana to stay the night. Along the way we would stop about every 3 hours to water and stretch the dogs. I would randomly hide a shed before I let them out. It's a little game I like to play with them to see if their brain is wired for what I want and sure enough it is. I've have been having trouble with Oberon not retrieving to hand and was really worried that he wouldn't do well. He seemed to get it figured out right in the nic of time. We lost some precious time during the test not retrieving it straight to my hand but eventually he would do it. I kept him from getting 2 passes. He passed the first course with time to spare. Onto the second course I failed to locate the boundary markers properly and pulled him off the last shed he needed to find to get another pass. It was 100% my fault. Onto Piper and her first run in the senior division. There was some confusion about using a yearling shed in the senior class and ended up having to find one on the first course. As always she started out slow but picked up the pace. A lot of that has to do with how slow I work. I don't want to miss any sheds and purposely work an area probably more than I should before moving on. We ended up with 2 passes with with her. Visiting with everyone is probably my favorite part. The friendships made and people you get to meet during these events are all worth the traveling and money spent. I've been kicking myself since I failed Obe on the second course. I forgot he is 5 months younger than Piper was on her first test and I haven't worked nearly as much with him as I should have. When I put it in perspective like that he is an amazing dog with a really bright future. We now have 3 full months until we travel to Tennessee to run in Wayne's hunt test. Until then I will continue to develop Obe's hold and polishing up Piper. Please. If anyone is slightly interested in this or getting into this. Wayne and myself would be more than happy to introduce you to what we know and have learned. Thanks again. [​IMG][​IMG]

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    Congrats on a good Hunt Test. When handlers run enough courses, there will be a goofus somewhere as I know from personal experience. It does make us practice better and mentally we focus our attention better.

    Gosh our dogs did a great job in a hot environment with the woods perfectly still at times (zero breeze).

    I wish my two dogs were as well behaved on a bed as Piper and Oberon.

    I echo what Zach said - anyone that has a dog which you wonder about - get in the game. Plenty of guidance is available from many sources. Labs and other breeds just do a great job at figuring issues out when given a reasonable opportunity.

    The participants at Hunt Test are great folks. Another reason to jump in. Readers in the south, Portland, TN Hunt Test on Sept 29th (5 miles south of Kentucky state line) and Olive Branch, MS Hunt Test on Oct 13 & 14 (UKC Event) and Oct 13 (NASHDA Event).

    Kentucky Antler Dogs will soon schedule a Hunt Test - they are working now on nailing down their course location.

    A very favorable calendar to get a dog settled in to improving their skills. Attending an event is the best way to gain valuable knowledge on training a dog and developing their drive on shed antlers.

    Piper and Oberon are two fine looking dogs and have an excellent track record. Zach and Jennifer have done a great job with them.

    Wayne
     

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