Persimmons...how do I love thee...let me count the ways.....

[dogghr]

Just getting caught up here Native. As usual you are the epitome of knowledge of all things that grow in the ground. And having seen your Eden, proof is in the pudding as they say. Did want you to know that my loan persimmon is doing well and she would have friends if the bear didn't love them to death. Fruit trees are my nemesis thanks to the furry ones, but I read with envy and still plant with hope. Thanks for the thread.

 

[catscratch]

Here are some I can think of:

England's Orchard
Nolin River Nut Tree Nursery
Stark Brothers
Wildlife Group now has a grafted American persimmon
Chestnut Hills Outdoors

I have persimmon and jujube ordered from England. I've been emailing him and he has been very helpful on figuring out what I want. I recommend at talking with him (England) if you aren't certain about what to order.

 

[Native Hunter]

I have persimmon and jujube ordered from England. I've been emailing him and he has been very helpful on figuring out what I want. I recommend at talking with him (England) if you aren't certain about what to order.

Yes, he is a good fellow to deal with.

 

[Native Hunter]

Just getting caught up here Native. As usual you are the epitome of knowledge of all things that grow in the ground. And having seen your Eden, proof is in the pudding as they say. Did want you to know that my loan persimmon is doing well and she would have friends if the bear didn't love them to death. Fruit trees are my nemesis thanks to the furry ones, but I read with envy and still plant with hope. Thanks for the thread.

I think we are going to have to build a steel cage around your persimmon tree to protect it from intruders. That's what old Mr. Paul Stark did back in 1914 when he discovered Golden Delicious. It didn't work to keep the "scion thieves" out, but maybe it will work for you on Yogi Bear....

 

[Triple C]

Yes, an American female persimmon. One reason is because it can set fruit parthenocarpically.

Other reasons:
No fireblight
No CAR
No powdery mildew
No Scab
No aphids
No spraying
No worms
No sooty blotch
No fly speck
No bitter rot
No black rot
No bot rot
No bitter pit
No blossom wilt
No San Jose Scale
No plum curculio
No coddling moth
No apple maggot
No Japanese Beetles
No Chestnut Weevils

Miss a few days...miss and education. You said a mouthful and more. Can't think of a year on our place that native persimmons have failed to produce fruit. And one literally has to do nothing to them other than daylighting from competition. And the critters keep planting them all over the property for free.

Had to look up the definition of a word I'd never heard until reading this thread.

 

[pinetag]

You guys amaze me at the knowledge you have! Parthenocarpy...sounds like a crazy spelling bee word.

 

[lakngolf]

It'll never be the same ever since that girl yelled
Parthenocarpy
P A R T H.....

 

[Native Hunter]

It'll never be the same ever since that girl yelled
Parthenocarpy
P A R T H.....

This thread has become supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

 

[Native Hunter]

You can send me your coons. Twenty-five deer can't keep up with the persimmons here.

 

[split toe]

You can send me your coons. Twenty-five deer can't keep up with the persimmons here.

Wow native, did you plant those and if so where did they come from?

 

[TreeDaddy]

Check the gratuitous clover and browsed rye in background.........cool

bill

 

[Native Hunter]

Wow native, did you plant those and if so where did they come from?

I planted most of them, and some of them are native trees. Most of what you see above are some free seedlings I set about 12 or 13 years ago that I got them through the NWTF. I don't recall the details, but I remember filling out a form and sending in. After that they told me where I could go pick up my seedlings. I drove to Lexington to get them, which is just a little less than 2 hours from where I live.

However, the best way to grow persimmons is to find native trees and open up the canopy for them. They grow much faster than any persimmons you will set. You can also topwork males to females. I've been doing that the last two years with great success, and many other folks on this forum have done it too. None of the topworked trees have fruited yet, but they are growing great, and its just a matter of time until they do.

If you look at the last picture in my first post in this thread, you will see one of the NWTF seedlings I mentioned above, where I backed off with the camera. That is about how much growth I have got in 12-13 years. My land is good for persimmons. They really love this ground for some reason.

 

[mattpatt]

I grafted several trees 5-6 years ago in an area that had mostly male trees for some reason. Those grafted trees have been producing for the last 2-3 years. My problem now is that I can't keep coons out of them long enough for the deer to get any. The upside to that is now I have more seedling trees that I need to graft as the coons do a good job at dispersing the seed and planting them for me. What once was a small grove of maybe 4-5 trees has now blossomed into a persimmon orchard all planted by local wildlife.

 

[THE LLC]

Trap them coons with dog-proof coon traps.

 

[mattpatt]

Trap them coons with dog-proof coon traps.

Sounds good in theory but this is where we deer hunt. Only reason we make a trip into the woods now is to either hunt or fill up feeders.

 

[mattpatt]

Want to know what’s getting all your persimmons before they touch the ground?

Caught this thief coming out of the woods last night.

Matt


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[Native Hunter]

I don't care what gets them in the tree. I'm more interested in what eats them off the ground.

 

[lakngolf]

I don't care what gets them in the tree. I'm more interested in what eats them off the ground.

So what are you saying??

 

[Native Hunter]

So what are you saying??

I'm saying that I'm not playing possum...…….

 

[lakngolf]

So what are you saying??

I'm saying that I'm not playing possum...…….

You let 14 walk and breed? And got this one with ML? Big Deer!!;