Persimmons...how do I love thee...let me count the ways.....

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  1. Native Hunter

    Native Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I love Thee because Thou art so loaded that Thou breaketh thy limbs.

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    Dang they are loaded!


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    That must be a new hybrid, "self trimming trees"!
     
  4. Native Hunter

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    Actually that tree illustrates one of the things I love about persimmons. That tree is just a run-of-the-mill seedling and nothing really special. Nearly all my trees are that loaded, and the seedling trees are just as good as the grafted trees in the eyes (and mouths) of the deer. I love apples and pears too, but that won’t be the case with them.
     
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    This is a seedling persimmon, and I took the picture yesterday. It's been dropping for weeks but is still loaded. We may need to give this one a name. They have already used "Deer Magnet" so maybe we will call it "Deer Tractor Beam".....:)

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    I finally found a producing persimmon on my place (1st pic), unfortunately it's right up beside the cottage. I'd much prefer it down in the woods somewhere. I also found another mature one down by the creek on the lower 20 (2nd pic). It looks like it might have had some fruit but it was too sparse and high up to tell for sure.
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    That looks like a good producing tree Pinetag. Even though it is by your cottage, I bet they sneak in at night and get some.
     
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    Yea, I've thought about putting a camera on it just to see what comes by.

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    I love thee because I can't kill thee:

    A couple of years ago I accidentally ran over a grafted persimmon tree that I had planted. The cage literally tore off all the bark and destroyed the tree. I clipped it off at the groundline and put up a new cage. Two years later I have a 15 foot tree that is loaded with fruit. Evidentially I got lucky and the rootstock was a female. I had planned on topworking the tree when it grew back, but the fruit looks so good I will just leave it and do nothing else.

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    A very nice specimen. My survivor, Tiny pulled this one from it's plastic container and brutalized it. I planted it and Tiny came back to finish the job. My wonderment of the moment, should I select the top growth and figure that the trunk will heal over, or do I select a lower one on the stem below damage, or one at ground level, I have choices, Steve?

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    At this point, I would probably leave it and assume that the trunk will heal over. The tree will benefit from the extra sunlight received via the top. If you see the situation changing, you can always change plans later on. My tree came back so well because it had an established root system. Your tree was just planted, so I would opt for just waiting a while before doing anything.
     
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    Looks like I'm headed for another limb breaking persimmon year. Note how the limbs are already sagging on this one, and the persimmons are still far from the size they will be when ripe. This particular tree is another seedling, but my grafted trees are really kicking in now too - especially the Deer Magnet and Miller.

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    Thou trees art loaded. Again...:)
     
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    It looks like the seedling in Post 189 above is going to bear large sized fruit. First pic below is the seedling and the second pic is Deer Magnet. They look very similar.

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    I hated to cut this limb off of one of my trees today, but it had grown out and was blocking my view into a food plot. This is off another seedling at a different location.

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    This one has already had two limbs to break off. This one may be next. But, it doesn't matter because most persimmons eventually shed low limbs anyway as they age. It doesn't hurt anything.

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    Does anyone have any thoughts on where to find potted trees(SE PA and/or north central PA)? I need to find a pollinator for a single survivor that began flowering this year.
     
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    Here is an interesting persimmon. A few years ago I bought a named cultivar Japanese Persimmon from a nursery. It was growing great, and then we had a bad wind storm that broke the top out of it - just a stub left. I had kind of forgotten about it, but two years ago I noticed that it was growing a new top from the stub. Well, fast forward to this year and it is loaded with what appears to be just plain American Persimmons. My hunch is that it was a Japanese Persimmon grafted to an American Female. The wind storm removed the Japanese part and the American Persimmon grew back.

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    Ain't that the truth!
     

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