New deer rifle caliber?

[j-bird]

Hopefully you're aware of the big snafu in the Indiana hunting guide, contrary to what is printed in the guide, no center fire rifles this year on public land. Private land rules are the same as last year.

I have read about this, but only hunt private land so I'm unaffected...... I know some folks are pretty upset. I find it interesting how an error can be made or simple changing of the verbiage can happen like that and it's now the law. Just think how easily a "mistake" could not allow any firearm on public ground!!!!

 

[Familytradition]

I bought a savage .308, still on back order. Maybe someday we will get a governor that will care about natural resources again. Becoming a real joke in this state.


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[j-bird]

I bought a savage .308, still on back order. Maybe someday we will get a governor that will care about natural resources again. Becoming a real joke in this state.


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Well I guess I have to wait until next year for my gun......turns out WE got a new dishwasher for christmas.....I couldn't be happier

 

[catscratch]

Well I guess I have to wait until next year for my gun......turns out WE got a new dishwasher for christmas.....I couldn't be happier

Lol. I feel your pain!

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[KDdid]

Hopefully you're aware of the big snafu in the Indiana hunting guide, contrary to what is printed in the guide, no center fire rifles this year on public land. Private land rules are the same as last year.

Update: as of yesterday, the Indiana DNR issued a press release stating that a new emergency rule change will allow rifle cartridges legal last year on public lands to be used again this year.



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[Berserker]

Ok - Indiana has legalized certain center-fire rifles this year. I'm not 100% in support of it but I aart!

Why not?

Cracks me up when guys say it will shoot a mile. Ya, if aiming at the sun. Most people don't understand ballistics thoough.

 

[Berserker]

45-70, load mild to wild. Barely over hadngun speeds.

Hopefully more states will allow straight wall cartridges in shotgun zones. But as I said, most people don't understand ballistics.

 

[j-bird]

Well I got some change in my pocket (after freezing my #$@% off in the cold doing some work) so I am looking at pulling the trigger on a 308win. Intended use will be for deer and yotes. I am still on a budget and looking for the entire rig to cost me less than $500. I am looking at 4 different set-ups at the moment...all are 22" barrel, blued finish with synthetic stock. This will be a "tree beater" and not a show piece.

Mossberg Partiot rifle (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $329.93
Savage Axis XP (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $349.99
Ruger American (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $489.99
Mossberg Patriot Night train (4-16x50 scope & bi-pod) - $469.99

I have looked at Remmington's and I see they have had quality issues to say the least with the 700 series models. I also looked at the Tikka's.....since some of you raved about them.....they exceed my budget. The Savage and Mossberg seem to be the leading candidates to me. The Ruger seems to be priced a bit high as it seems to have the same features as the others that I can't account for the $100+ price difference. The "Night train" is being considered because I like magnification...it's that simple. I have zero exposure to Savage, and the only exposure I have to Mossberg is with their shotguns....and they have been very reliable for the price point from what I have seen and customer service is great in my experience as well. Emma has laid claim to my 30-30 since she tagged her deer with it.

 

[jteeen]

Well I got some change in my pocket (after freezing my #$@% off in the cold doing some work) so I am looking at pulling the trigger on a 308win. Intended use will be for deer and yotes. I am still on a budget and looking for the entire rig to cost me less than $500. I am looking at 4 different set-ups at the moment...all are 22" barrel, blued finish with synthetic stock. This will be a "tree beater" and not a show piece.

Mossberg Partiot rifle (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $329.93
Savage Axis XP (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $349.99
Ruger American (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $489.99
Mossberg Patriot Night train (4-16x50 scope & bi-pod) - $469.99

I have looked at Remmington's and I see they have had quality issues to say the least with the 700 series models. I also looked at the Tikka's.....since some of you raved about them.....they exceed my budget. The Savage and Mossberg seem to be the leading candidates to me. The Ruger seems to be priced a bit high as it seems to have the same features as the others that I can't account for the $100+ price difference. The "Night train" is being considered because I like magnification...it's that simple. I have zero exposure to Savage, and the only exposure I have to Mossberg is with their shotguns....and they have been very reliable for the price point from what I have seen and customer service is great in my experience as well. Emma has laid claim to my 30-30 since she tagged her deer with it.

I have a Savage hog Hunter in .308 in 18" or 20". I like the short barrel since we have alot of short shots 150 yards and less. Has a nice heavy threaded barrel. Stock is junk but it bounces around the truck, 4 wheeler, scratches, etc. Accu trigger can be adjusted to hair trigger but I left mine stock.

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[catscratch]

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Rifles/hunter.asp

J-bird, I have an H&R Ultra Rifle in .308. It's a single shot but is was cheap and shoots great! Very easy to carry and shoulders very nice. It's worth checking out in my opinion.
My dad has a Savage in .308 also. It's a great gun too.

 

[MK111]

All of the rifles you listed will serve you well. I would buy a Remington 700 with no thoughts taken. Most of the negative posts are so mickey mouse it's laughable.
I just bought a factory 20" barrel for my TC Encore frame in 460 S&W mag and I took a big doe at 75 yds with hand loads.

 

[Tom Threetoes]

I should have checked the forum more often, I just bought my 2 sons a TC compass apiece. Both 308s $197 after rebate. It's passed now sorry. They're not the slickest bolt guns I've ever seen but accuracy is guaranteed and the price was right.

 

[Seabee]

Well I got some change in my pocket (after freezing my #$@% off in the cold doing some work) so I am looking at pulling the trigger on a 308win. Intended use will be for deer and yotes. I am still on a budget and looking for the entire rig to cost me less than $500. I am looking at 4 different set-ups at the moment...all are 22" barrel, blued finish with synthetic stock. This will be a "tree beater" and not a show piece.

Mossberg Partiot rifle (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $329.93
Savage Axis XP (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $349.99
Ruger American (3-9X40 vortex scope) - $489.99
Mossberg Patriot Night train (4-16x50 scope & bi-pod) - $469.99

I have looked at Remmington's and I see they have had quality issues to say the least with the 700 series models. I also looked at the Tikka's.....since some of you raved about them.....they exceed my budget. The Savage and Mossberg seem to be the leading candidates to me. The Ruger seems to be priced a bit high as it seems to have the same features as the others that I can't account for the $100+ price difference. The "Night train" is being considered because I like magnification...it's that simple. I have zero exposure to Savage, and the only exposure I have to Mossberg is with their shotguns....and they have been very reliable for the price point from what I have seen and customer service is great in my experience as well. Emma has laid claim to my 30-30 since she tagged her deer with it.

Might be a little too entry level, but we picked up a TC Compass in .308 for my nephew. Strapped on a spare Nikon 3x9x40 BDC and I'm truly impressed. Thing shoots lights out! Gun was like 175$ after a 75$ rebate through TC.

 

[Seabee]

I should have checked the forum more often, I just bought my 2 sons a TC compass apiece. Both 308s $197 after rebate. It's passed now sorry. They're not the slickest bolt guns I've ever seen but accuracy is guaranteed and the price was right.

We must have been typing at the same time..lol. I do believe they extended the rebate until April 30th.

 

[Tom Threetoes]

That's cool, I've kinda developed a hankering for a 6.5 Creedmore. May need to check this out.

 

[swat1018]

There is nothing wrong with a Rem 700, put my life in one's hands many times.

 

[Weezy]

Sportsman warehouse has Howa hogue game king package on sale for $399. It's basically a weatherby vanguard. Howa makes the actions for the vanguard. Way better quality than the entry level budget rifles for not much more $

 

[Gravel Road]

Might be a little too entry level, but we picked up a TC Compass in .308 for my nephew. Strapped on a spare Nikon 3x9x40 BDC and I'm truly impressed. Thing shoots lights out! Gun was like 175$ after a 75$ rebate through TC.

I bought the Compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and put the same scope on it. El cheapo gun killed two deer this year-lol. The darn thing shoots great, easily under an inch with factory ammo. One group was .37 inches. Terrible trigger and not the smoothest action, but for a beater it works fine.

 

[Drycreek]

Well I guess I have to wait until next year for my gun......turns out WE got a new dishwasher for christmas.....I couldn't be happier

I guess you could drop it on a deer from 20 feet up and it would do the trick ! Do they come in camo ?

 

[j-bird]

OK - in my digging I am seeing terms I am familiar with but need some clarity on.....as well as a better understanding of what they do and the affect. I have been out out the gun buying world for at least a decade and a lot has changed.

"Threaded barrel" - as I understand it, this means the barrel is threaded to the receiver/action assembly. I am not sure why it would matter if it is threaded or not - other than in a case where you may want to replace the barrel at some point......which would be very unlikely for me. Some folks seem to be pushing it as a sign of quality....and I am not sure I understand why.

Number of locking lugs on the bolt - some have 2, some have 3.....is 3 really better than 2? I realize the lugs lock the bolt into place, but I guess I fail to see/understand why 3 would be better than 2.

Barrel bedding - some are free floating barrels (which I understand), others have different methods ("glass") and I am not sure I understand why one is better than the other. I always thought "free floating" was what you wanted that way the stock and the like didn't impact the barrel....but again maybe that school of thought has changed as well.

I am not sure I am a fan of a rotary style magazine as well (Ruger). ALL my other guns are true in-line, stack type magazines and I have never had an issue.

Barrel length - I know what it is obviously, but I am seeing barrel length range from 18" to 26". Back when I was more into guns barrel length was a double edged sword....the more length meant more stability for longer range accuracy AND ensured the powder charge fully was spent inside the barrel. However too much barrel was just difficult to contend with, but too short of a barrel meant a loss in long range accuracy, but easier to use in tight spaces. For a 308.....is a 26" barrel really needed and is a 18" barrel robbing the cartridge of performance? Most seem to be in the 22" length.

Lastly I am finding that the basic synthetic stock just doesn't feel right. It feels cheap and just "wrong" to me. I have 3 other guns with synthetic stocks (22LR, 11-87 & CVA muzzleloader) but for some reason it just feels "wrong" on a true rifle to me for some reason. So I envision I will get a wood stock or an aftermarket one.....or maybe a Houge style one. I am not sure why I am hung up on this, but it was simply the first thing I noticed and gave a poor first impression of the gun.