New deer rifle caliber?
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j-bird
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Well - she shot my 30-30 lever gun like a champ! So much so that she looked at me and smiled and said, "I love my new gun dad!" Uuuuummm, nnnoooo?!? She put 3 rounds thru it and had a nice tight group at 50 yards. So at least for this year it looks like we will be using the 30-30 for firearms season. She only hunts with me so "sharing" the gun is fine. I have it scoped for 100 yards but will limit her to 50......since it will be her first deer. The boy will use the CVA.
I may however have just lost another gun. My son has laid claim to MY CVA muzzleloader - he has killed more deer with it than I have and now my daughter seems pretty keen on MY 30-30 lever gun. I think a new 308 may just be on my x-mas list!
I may however have just lost another gun. My son has laid claim to MY CVA muzzleloader - he has killed more deer with it than I have and now my daughter seems pretty keen on MY 30-30 lever gun. I think a new 308 may just be on my x-mas list!
deer patch
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Sounds like you will need a new gun. May I suggest a Tikka.
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Mahindra3016
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Looks like i'm late to the discussion, Howa is chambering the 6.5 Grendel, It looks to be a great minimal recoil round for young kids. I have shot the 123 a-max from my 260, and they are explosive like a v-max, but at Grendel velocities they are performing very well on deer from what i have researched.
jteeen
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I have a .308 Savage and I love it. Best deal for the money. With a nice thick pad there's not much recoil compared to other guns. My wife can't shoot it because her arms are too short, but it's not bad at all. I'll probably pick up a .243 savage lady hunter for her at some point since it has a shorter stock.
Jason Broom
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Not legal in Indiana unless you neck it down to 243.
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Mahindra3016
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You cant use bigger than .243 in indiana? that seems unusual,just curious, how long has that been the law? we can use what ever we want in Pa, from a .17 rem up to a 50 bmg.
Jason Broom
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The Indiana deer rifle regulations almost require a law degree to understand, but here's the highlights:
1) On PRIVATE land, you can use any 24-caliber rifle, OR any 30-caliber rifle, or any cartridge that is legal on public land. You cannot use rifles chambering cartridges in calibers other than 24 or 30, unless they meet the public land guidelines.
2) On PUBLIC land, you can only use a rifle for deer hunting if the cartridge case length (not the cartridge OAL, just the case) is no longer than 1.800" and the bullet is no less than .357" in diameter.
Oh, if you're shooting a 15" Encore pistol, it can be chambered in anything you want, these regulations only apply to rifles!
How's that for ridiculous?
catscratch
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You can use a .243 but not a .270?
And on public you can't use a .308 (less than a .357)?
Did I read that right or am I just looking at it wrong?
And on public you can't use a .308 (less than a .357)?
Did I read that right or am I just looking at it wrong?
Jason Broom
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Mahindra3016
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That is some crazy rules.
catscratch
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GOOFY! Is there any logic to the rules, or did they just pull crap out of a hat?You read it right.
HuntMeister
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Who are "they"? Can you share the source of this please?
Jason Broom
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It's what happens when the people responsible for game management decisions knuckle under to special interest groups, and then politicians get involved. There is clearly no "logic" to the rules, but there is an evolution, of sorts. I don't know if Swat1018 has a verifiable source for his assertion, but I, too, believe the regulations will be opened up to essentially all centerfire rifle cartridges, within a 3-year period. Unless the deer population crashes, and/or a few people are shot or killed by 24 or 30 caliber rifles, the odds are very good cartridges in-between, and above 30 caliber, will be allowed. Then again, as wonky as Indiana regs currently are, it's really anybody's guess that happens.
HuntMeister
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Definitely was an evolution to get us to the point we are now at, I watched much of it unfold via the WWW.
I am for CF rifles but not happy that the politicians are how we got here, I feel our DNR should be the one in control of these things.
I too believe it will be opened up to most all logical CF calibers but I would be surprised if it were to happen any sooner than 5 years since that is the time frame for this "trial".
Jason Broom
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While I don't disagree, HM, if the DNR and the resources council drag their feet that long, it almost won't matter...everyone who wants to hunt deer with a CF rifle will already own a 243, 308 or 30-'06. If they make all "others" legal, 5 years from now, how many folks are going to buy a 260 Remington or a 270 Winchester?
I wish they had included all 35 caliber rounds, as well, since the previous 1.800" regulations essentially covered cartridges in that power/range category. I mean, someone might have used their 358 Norma Mag, 35 Whelen or even a 35 Newton, but for the most part, it wouldn't have added much besides the option to use a full-length 35 Remington or a 358 Winchester, without having to trim cases.
I wish they had included all 35 caliber rounds, as well, since the previous 1.800" regulations essentially covered cartridges in that power/range category. I mean, someone might have used their 358 Norma Mag, 35 Whelen or even a 35 Newton, but for the most part, it wouldn't have added much besides the option to use a full-length 35 Remington or a 358 Winchester, without having to trim cases.
