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Comparison of White Oak and Sawtooth Oak Acorn Production and Attractiveness
Daniel L. Morina - North Carolina State University; Marcus A. Lashley- North Carolina State University; M. Colter Chitwood - North Carolina State University; Michael T. Biggerstaff - North Carolina State University; Christopher S. DePerno - North Carolina State University; Christopher E. Moorman - North Carolina State University
ABSTRACT: Production and attractiveness of acorns are used as justifications to promote sawtooth oaks in the Southeast. However, given the widespread misconceptions that have led to the introduction and subsequent establishment of invasive species in the Southeast, data are needed to substantiate claims before sawtooth promotion continues. For 2 years we followed acorn production of 30 white oaks and 30 sawtooth oaks in openings with no competition. Also, we baited camera traps with acorns from each species to test their attractiveness to white-tailed deer. Sawtooths (10% variation) were more consistent acorn producers across years than white oaks (87% variation). However, average production was similar between sawtooths (205 acorns/yd2 canopy) and white oaks (192 acorns/yd2 canopy), with whites outproducing sawtooths by nearly 2 times in their best year. Sawtooths had a 2-week shorter production period with the peak being 4 weeks earlier than white oaks. At baited camera traps, deer took 6 times longer to approach sawtooths than white oaks and randomly walked by unbaited sites 60 hours sooner than sites baited with sawtooth acorns. When presented with both options, deer consumed all white oak acorns before consuming any sawtooth acorns. The only advantage of sawtooths was consistent production from year to year, which is a benefit also provided by native red oaks. Therefore, when planting oaks to manage foods for deer, managers should focus on native species from each subgenus to promote consistent and attractive food sources available to deer during the time they are adapted to consume them.
Contact: dlmorina@ncsu.edu Notes:
 
We must keep in mind that many of the university people who are telling you that sawtooths are a problem, just happen to be (to a large extent) the same people who are telling you that an overabundance of wolves and coyotes is not a problem.

Just saying.............you gotta keep things in perspective - kind of like the old fable of "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christen Andersen.......;)
 
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Agree with Native. I just provided the results of the study for information. A lot of these studies fail to take into account a lot of things. It is like they are doing the study to prove THEIR theory. They compared sawtooth with white oaks. Yes, I would love to have a fifty acre patch of mature white oak on my 350 acres. As it is, I don't have a one. I am 65 yrs old. If I planted some this spring, I might not ever see them drop an acorn. And besides that, the reason they aren't on my place to begin with - maybe they don't grow worth a dang here anyway. And, as for the red oaks - most of my mature red oak trees died due to hypoxillon canker in 2011 and 2012. Sawtooths are hardy, they produce acorns at an early age, they produce almost every year - and while wildlife may choose white oak over sawtooth - on my place, they wouldn't have that choice with no white oak and few red oaks.

Sawtooth very well fits my management scheme - and I don't care what anyone thinks.;)
 
Agree with Native. I just provided the results of the study for information. A lot of these studies fail to take into account a lot of things. It is like they are doing the study to prove THEIR theory. They compared sawtooth with white oaks. Yes, I would love to have a fifty acre patch of mature white oak on my 350 acres. As it is, I don't have a one. I am 65 yrs old. If I planted some this spring, I might not ever see them drop an acorn. And besides that, the reason they aren't on my place to begin with - maybe they don't grow worth a dang here anyway. And, as for the red oaks - most of my mature red oak trees died due to hypoxillon canker in 2011 and 2012. Sawtooths are hardy, they produce acorns at an early age, they produce almost every year - and while wildlife may choose white oak over sawtooth - on my place, they wouldn't have that choice with no white oak and few red oaks.

Sawtooth very well fits my management scheme - and I don't care what anyone thinks.;)

Good points SwampCat.
 
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Circled in green: Sawtooth Oak
Circled in white: Doe eating acorns from Sawtooth Oak...(I promise).

Believe it or not, seeing this doe munching on acorns was a proud moment for me. It was the first time that I actually witnessed a deer eating acorns from a tree that I had planted.
 
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