is cleth the best there is
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dogdoc
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How long ago did u apply it? Doesn't work as well in dry conditions. Are the grasses u r trying to kill on the label?
Most common failure I have seen is when someone mistakes sedge as a grass. Looks very much like a grass but it isn't. A picture of the targeted grass (es ) you are trying to kill would be helpful.
Most common failure I have seen is when someone mistakes sedge as a grass. Looks very much like a grass but it isn't. A picture of the targeted grass (es ) you are trying to kill would be helpful.
X-farmerdan
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Clethadim is probably the vest value for the buck. I, too, have had failures - and I knew I probably would when I did it. I sprayed when the grass was too tall, when the growing condition weren't optimum, with not enough crop oil, and/or not a big enough dose of cleth.
The label is the law, but, truth be known most of use use something a little more concentrated. I think we sometimes we expect a lot from an application of herbicdes when "weeds" are too big (and other bad timing issues) and/or when we cut corners.
The label is the law, but, truth be known most of use use something a little more concentrated. I think we sometimes we expect a lot from an application of herbicdes when "weeds" are too big (and other bad timing issues) and/or when we cut corners.
Needmorebrush82
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I mixed mine a bit heavy around my tree hoop house and had a great kill in 2 weeks. I have started mixing mine with a little dish soap which eats the protective wax off of the grasses and its a dirt cheap way to make water wetter without surfactants or crop oil when using cleth. I have had issues with it taking forever or not getting a solid kill at normal strength however it was also done in not so perfect conditions.
Ozarks-Bowhunter
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I've used cleth just twice. The first time I did not use crop oil and had bad results.The second time I used crop oil and had a total kill on all grasses. I could see the grass dying in less than a week.
Smallplot
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What kind of sprayer are you using? (Hand sprayer, Boomless, if boom what kind of tips) How much water per acre are you using?
Conditions. had it been dry for a while when you sprayed? Did you mow to stimulate new growth then apply? Were the grasses mature when you sprayed?
Another factor - are you applying what the label of your specific product calls for and are you certain your target is a grass and not just looks like a grass?
Conditions. had it been dry for a while when you sprayed? Did you mow to stimulate new growth then apply? Were the grasses mature when you sprayed?
Another factor - are you applying what the label of your specific product calls for and are you certain your target is a grass and not just looks like a grass?
I seem to have a lot of issues with cleth as well. I added 20 oz cleth and 10 oz surfactant to 15 gallons of water to spray my clover plots last weekend. Total area sprayed may be 1.2 acre. I sprayed it pretty heavy and kept running it over until I was out. Everything was wet... I sprayed early in the day and there was was a light dew and we have been in a drought. I looked at it today and I can't tell it is doing anything...
Smallplot
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I have never had an issue spraying Cleth but then again there are those who don't think Gly at light rates will kill Sedge. You never want anything to look wet when spraying. I think there is a photo in my alfalfa thread where I showed what a plant looked like after spraying. Wet means water is running off and along with it your herbicide. I have to ask how it can look wet with 15 gal on water on over an acre? Give it more time, it will likely turn but it may take a while since you are in a drought.
I have a boom sprayer for my ATV and every time I have sprayed I make sure I can see it which means when I come around I look for the wet plants to make sure I have coverage. I have great kills with GLY but it seems Cleth is a different animal.
Ozarks-Bowhunter
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When I spray I use 24 gallons of water per acre with a fine mist. I can barely see any wetness on the vegetation when I come back around. There is never drops on the leaves.
I had mowed 3-4 days before and no this was 2 weeks ago and it had rained a couple days before.I thought it was grass,I can kill it very easy with gly and that's what I do if it gets too bad in my clover but this was a small area that had chicory and I used a backpack sprayer.This isn't the first time I have used it but have never had a good kill
Have you noticed if it has started working? Mine doesn't look like it did a thing...
If I can't tell by Saturday since that will be 2 full weeks in I am going to double the dose I sprayed last time and try it again on Sunday. I sprayed 20 oz of Cleth and added 10 oz of surfactant to 15 gallons of water for a little over an acre.
Doubling everything but the water this go around...
Doubling everything but the water this go around...
Man I hope you are right... I need to get this grass dead in my clover like right now because I want to overseed the dead grass areas and we are rolling up on that time...
Ozarks-Bowhunter
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Just curious if the label for what your using has a maximum ounces per year in there somewhere?
Is your grass actively growing? I would have guessed your area would be experiencing a typical summer dormancy period now?
Ozarks-Bowhunter
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That's what I was thinking off the top of my head but I just looked at a label online and all I found there said 16 oz. per application.
Looked further and it said for clover do not exceed 16 oz. per acre per year.
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