Crossbow Deer Hunting (The Definite Guide)

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  1. dogghr

    dogghr Well-Known Member

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    The argument that xbows are helping to save the hunting tradition doesn't hold water. Statistically by the industry itself, sales of xbow were mostly crossovers from present bowhunters. And their sales, according to them, has pretty much gone stagnant. I don't mind if one chooses to hunt with them, so be it. As for its legal, there are lots of laws in affect that I don't support. I do know this, if the xbow is no more effective, then why did our bow kill jump by 10000 deer first year it went into affect in this state with same hunting numbers??
    Loss of hunters? I've said it before but loss of the hunting community goes further than weapon of choice. If that were the case, we would have increased numbers already with all the extra seasons and more deer available in the last 30+ yrs. Loss of number is our change in a comradory of groups hunting together. No longer do I go hunt with my buddies as much, but lone go at it for a variety of reasons. My memories are not very often of a trophy taken, but of the times I've had with my friends. As with most things, those days are gone and I'll accept it to some extent. But please don't tell me that inlines, or compounds shooting 400 fps, or the damn xbow is the saving grace of the hunting community.
     
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    What you are saying has merit. We as a Group do not hunt like we did 40 years ago.
    The TV Shows have a lot to do with that where if you are not "growing deer" and "managing" 2000+ acres you are not hunting right. Gone are the days of shooting he first legal deer you see and then going to look to see "what ya got". Sort of like opening present on Christmas Morning.
    Also gone are the days of going to Deer Camp for the Opener with your family and friends. The Nightly Card Games, The Best Eating from cooks you never knew of, the Getting together for Deer Drives and taking turns being Standers and Watchers.

    Now we tend to go to our property and the only ones else there are a few people we let come along. There are no things like Deer Drives as we all hunt alone. We tend to seek to know every deer on our property and even name them and build a Hit List.

    To sum that all up there was a day when I was telling my son in law of one of my memories of hunting in my early teens ans he stopped me to say "you know I hear you telling these tales of deer hunting, but honestly they are hard to believe". He will never get to experience those days for sure.

    But if shooting a Crossbow brings into hunting that guy that never did, or kid that never heard of or even keeps a guy trying-- then who cares. It is a good then.
     
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    Mennoniteman Well-Known Member

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    You retelling nostalgic deer camp stories sound like you are native to the northeast or Michigan rather than Florida?
     
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    Mennoniteman Well-Known Member

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    Not hunting with buddies is a choice. Is finding some new friends to hunt with?
     
  5. Zeek

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    Xbows, ML, longer, more seasons is just CPR for the sport of hunting. Keeping hunters in the game, is the name of the game now. The land is all fragmented now. Gone are the big farms and woods where drives were done, and camps were built. Sold off 10 acres at a time. I think lack of access to hunting ground is the biggest hindrance. Lots of weapon choices, nowhere to use them.
    "The houses went up.
    The trees were cut down
    And there went the best deer huntin around."
     
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  6. Deadeye

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    Yup for sure.

    • Raised in NW Pa, Jefferson County to be exact, and lived there for the first 38 years of my life.

    Moved to Florida for work and some health issues.
     
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  7. dogghr

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    Maybe I should clarify. I still have most those hunting buddies but the camping a mountain top and hunting public land with no access of motor vehicle and several mile deer drag of buck shot, and loss of large farming tracts broken down into 5 ac family housing, and targeting so called trophy bucks in part by choice and in part by no longer shooting 6 deer/ season, has changed all that aspect, and expendable money to own or lease land to manage habitat and deer population. Wow that was a long sentence. My point, I don't know many that pack up a tent and spend the wk hunting with a group of 10 or more guys/gals sitting around the fire telling lies and shooting what might come by when given the chance. It changed, and I accept change, but I do think it is a contributing factor of many causes of the loss of attraction of the younger age groups. Barking up the wrong tree with new weapons and seasons to save the culture I think.
     
  8. Drycreek

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    My two cents: I don’t think crossbows are gonna save hunting either. A culture shift is the cause of hunter numbers declining. We have transitioned from a rural to an urban society. That’s the bottom line. There are so many things that kids can do without getting out of town these days, and both parents working in order to pay for all the “stuff” that they “have to have” doesn’t leave much time to enjoy or $ to pay for hunting “stuff “. Priorities change over time.
     
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    While hunting has changed drastically over the last 40 years, it isn't on life support in the circles where I hunt, my buddies and I still get together, and there's plenty of hunting going on when there's something to hunt. The biggest factor here in there being no game isn't in loss of habitat, it's that the people that were into protecting game are now into protecting predators, including hunters on this forum. In the last 20 years it's been a more and more common sight if you see a game animal, it's being pursued by a predator. As an example, after they cleaned out the pheasants, there's always redtails following the hen turkeys with their broods this time of the year and their broods get smaller and smaller as the summer progresses and there's no season or solution for redtails. A crossbow season for redtails might be the answer.
     
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    I'm 31 and started with a crossbow 4 years ago. I've probably killed 6 or 7 deer with it. I was brand new to hunting.

    I don't think it has anything to do with saving the hunting "tradition" mentioned above. But it sure makes it easier to get into it.

    Biggest issue is what's already been said, younger people don't want anything to do with it. Even here in Oklahoma mentioning killing a poor helpless animal (not my words) can get some looks. So in turn, I don't say anything, and go hunt by myself. I would love to have a group of guys to hunt with, even if I never killed anything. I grew up in the suburbs and got into it, so I think anyone can.
     
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    Two really great lines there.

    I have/had both "bows" but still prefer to send a .270 bullet through them pine goats. We have loooooooong deer seasons in Florida...kills during bow season reduce the amount of trigger pulls I can do in January/February!
     
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    I'm with you! And I confess I have a split personality. Guys who have cut their teeth on a rifle, out in the woods alone at 10 yrs old with a 32 special, may convert to archery hunters, but the rifle hunter is always lurking in the background. You can take the boy out of the rifle hunting crowd, but you can never take the rifleman out of the boy.
     
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    Much truth here.
    I hunted with Dad the first time at age 12, but hunted alone and shot my first buck (7-point) with my 30-30 model 94 the next year at age 13.
    I enjoy Archery, but honestly it is so hot here during the Fl Archery Season it sort of ruins it for me. I miss the leaves changing colors and the smell of fall. The russell of the leaves on the ground as something approaches.

    I still get out some, but once Rifle opens the weather turns cooler and in the Panhandle the season runs later so you get a taste of winter. Yes it has gotten cold enough to wear my insulated Bibs and Jacket, damn glad I packed them.
     
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