Chestnut oak (quercus montana) seedlings
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weekender21
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Mossy Oaks Nativ nurseries usually has them.
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They're sold out for the year. Won't have any until fall.
Native Hunter
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How much use of Overcup Oak by deer do you see in your area?
weekender21
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The difference in deer selection from region to region is fascinating. Deer hammer the few chestnut oaks on our place.
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They're supposed to be better in shallow rocky soil. Our soil is pretty rocky. Digging a hole can be a real challenge in some places. I'd love some acorns in the fall!
THE LLC
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ZERO. They usually end up in huge windrows once winter flooding subsides. Hogs will eat them.
THE LLC
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Remind me in September. I would think post oak or maybe chinkapin oak would work.
Jon
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I was on a clients property south east ny, the basic soil was well drained rocky. I found chestnut oak seedlings... that should tell you that they survive in these soils plus they are highly acidic.... I’m not helping you with your purchase but hopefully that gives you confidence.
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Mennoniteman
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They'd be easy to come by, just ask a landowner to go out and dig some. In chestnut oak woods 90% of the seedlings die anyway due to competition. But I'd think twice before I'd plant any for deer or timber, they are very susceptible to browsing, very slow to produce, very susceptible to diseases, and very quick to die, and although deer and turkeys love them they are not as sought after by deer as white and red oak acorns. Plus, if you are in Northern PA you are towards the northwestern edge of their natural range. I'd consider planting pears for deer before acorns.
We have planted lots of other trees, fruit and mast. Was just looking for some of these for diversity.
Mennoniteman
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The idea of diversity is good. But the chestnut oaks are not a very hardy tree. I'd plant white oaks, they are the hardiest of all the oaks. I grew up around oak woods, and currently have hundreds of acres of them in PA. The chestnut oaks, which, around here the old guys called rock oak, will often just up and die for no observable reason, the foresters are telling me oak wilt is killing some of them. But it mostly the chestnut oaks, there's not many red, scarlet, black, pin, or white oaks dying.
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Good to know. Most of the hardwoods we're planting these days are hybrid chestnut, with the hopes of seeing the Darling 58 get approved soon. Additionally some chinkapin and swamp white oaks from the MDC.
I did pick up a gas powered Echo drill, with a small auger bit a few weeks ago. One use may be direct seeding acorns to see if we can get any regen on oaks.
