butyrac in clover question

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    IMG_0987.jpg This pic is my first attempt at throw and mow. Sprayed glypho twice over 1 month, spread clover and 1 test strip clover/chicory mix Sep. 19th, then mowed with bushhog lowest setting 2 passes. I basically felt I was making mulch out of the dead grass. The thatch/mulch is average 3" tall with some 5" areas and some bare ground. This photo is Sep. 19th plant date and it then got 6 days rain from tropical storm Beta . I will go back Saturday to fertilize w/ 0-20-20 . Question: does this look like correct amount of thatch/mulch ? or do I need to remove some? The left side of plot is clover that made it through summer! Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
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    PICT0246.JPG The back half is pic of thatch before first glypho spray. The part he is walking on is where the turkeys destroyed the clover.
     

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    IMG_0816.jpg This is thatch 2 weeks later after first glypho spray.
     
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    That deer was a cowhorn 4 last year and is a cowhorn 4 this year, although the horns are a tiny bit taller. He weighs as much as any deer on my cameras this year . Would this be considered a cull buck? Maybe take him instead of a meat doe? He hangs around a nice 8 that is same size exactly-I think they are twin brothers.
     
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    Thatch is the hardest part of TnM. Having the right stuff, enough of it, and getting it down evenly is the challenge. I don't know southern growing, so I can't guess how that'll turn out for you. But if it doesn't work, back up a step and focus on growing a thatch crop first, and then on being able to get it down evenly.
     
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    I can’t speak to TnM, my only try was a resounding failure, but I would eat that buck instead of a doe. Looks likewhat he is what he’s gonna be. I have one on my lease that, although he’s an eight point, seems to have the same dinky rack the last three years. I can’t tell from the two pics I have this year if he’s even legal, gotta be 13” inside, but if he is I’ll take him if I can. 3944B901-0105-4333-B963-5C5D88F768A8.jpeg
     
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    I normally mow my TnM at 6-8”(closer to 8”). It’s not as thick on the mulch side of things. I don’t remove any thatch, just let it lay.
     
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    If you can't see a few glimpses of dirt through the thatch it's too thick. A perfect thatch totally covers the dirt, with just a little bit of dirt showing. If there's no dirt peeking through it's probably a little thick for the seeds to push up through. A lot of dirt showing allows some of the the seed to dry out, resulting in poor germination.
     
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    Thanks for the input guys, I will bring a hand rake and even out any big clumps of mulch, and hopefully see lots of clover sprouted.
     
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    IMG_1123.jpg IMG_1123.jpg Left half of plot is throw n mow attempt #1, at 20 days old. Clover coming up, not everywhere but there is more under the thatch than this photo shows. I think maybe %80 coverage, we shall see. The bright green is the chicory test strip down the middle coming up great. All the clumps of thatch seen are from &^%$#@! pigs.
     
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    IMG_1124.jpg Clover coming through good right here. IMG_1124.jpg
     
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    IMG_1117.jpg Right side of plot doing great with huge rain boost from storms beta and delta. Without pig and turkey damage this side would be %100 covered. This was planted 9-23-19, first attempt perennial clover, and it made it through summer! Many sincere thanks to those on this site who helped with advice .
     
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