Age and scores please

Discussion in 'Trail Cameras' started by bigbluetruck, Nov 18, 2019.

  1. bigbluetruck

    bigbluetruck Active Member

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    All these bucks come off 1 camera in my "prime" hunting area. I was real excited about the 5x5 until he was broke off. Pretty happy there looks to be at least 3-4 potential shooters next year. This doesnt count all the smaller bucks around too.

    Apologize for the quality, have to take pictures from the laptop because it doesnt want to load them directly to the internet[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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  2. Drycreek

    Drycreek Well-Known Member

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    The crop is looking good BBT. That next to last looks like a big bodied mature buck for sure.
     
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  3. Chainsaw

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    You have some great deer there Big Blue. I struggle to age the deer on this property but feel I do OK. However on a property far, far away it is impossible for me. There are many factors that tell me age here. One is antler diameter just above the burr. Using the eye which is around 4 3/4 inches diameter according to DR. Krolls "Aging And Judging Trophy Whitetails" to determine the antler diameter just above the burr works great. If it is larger than the eye here it is a solid 4 1/2 or more. Then I look at the neck, if it is very, very huge and fits into the chest and shoulders seamlessly then it is 4 1/2 or more. That particular book has pics of northern and southern bucks throughout their lifetime. I use it to age deer in pictures and found it to be easily doable and believable for the deer here.

    For example using just those two criteria, the third deer pictured (picture 3) if living here would be a solid 4 1/2 and up. I don't know if those two criteria apply to Nebraska. Note; Dr. Kroll's book doesn't say to age deer just by those two criteria but I find it works for me just fine. I mean REALLY! When you only get a second or maybe three to age the deer in the brush just how many measurements can one take?

    Realizing antler growth is so different in each state, it may or may not be applicable to use antler diameter to field judge age as I feel it is here.
     
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  4. Letmgrow

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    Dave, I have to agree with everything you are saying. Geography plays an important role in the aging game. I have seen this when I used to hunt in the Southern Tier of our own state. It always seemed to me antler growth was a year ahead of the northern zone. Some 1 1/2 YO bucks had larger antler growth in the southern zone than 2 1/2 YO northern bucks.
    We have a friend who is a family member of the land directly behind ours who is really into deer aging. His Dad owns land downstate near Bath and they were close friends with the late Charles Alsheimer. In their meetings the deer aging subject came up often. Our friend learned deer aging from Mr. Alsheimer by inspecting the teeth in the upper jaw bone.
    If you were to go to Illinois, Kansas or another state with higher mineral contents in the soils and longer growing seasons you'd see larger antlers on younger deer than you'd ever see up here in our area. Their bodies aren't stressed like they are in the long winters up here either.
    I think aging deer is a combination of science, luck and what you want to believe. Hunting in the same area year after year and studying the trail cam pictures does help narrow the aging process a lot.
     
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  5. HB_Hunter

    HB_Hunter Well-Known Member

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    It’s also helpful to have dates with the pictures. That first pic looks like a 2yo maybe 3yo based on his neck and legs. He might look totally different mid October.

    I like Chainsaw’s method of eye and antler bur mixed with how the neck fits into the shoulders.
     

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