A good deer round

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by RM1(SS), Jun 13, 2018.

  1. RM1(SS)

    RM1(SS) New Member

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    I have a CZ 527 FS I'm going to hunt with, what's a good round for that both factory and hand load, thanks for any help
     
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    You might get more responses if you stated what caliber the gun is. Good luck.
     
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    I'm sorry lost chain of though, a 223 cal, thanks


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    Native Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I personally wouldn't hunt deer with a 223 because I fell it is too light for the job.

    However, if I had no choice and had to do it, I would be using something with a Barnes solid copper bullet like the ammo shown in the link below. And, I would certainly be extremely careful about shot placement.



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  5. Drycreek

    Drycreek Well-Known Member

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    I'll have to agree with Native, the .223 is a varmint round. It will kill a deer, but it certainly wouldn't be my first choice. I think the bottom, for me, would be a .243 with 100 grain bullets, and a premium bullet at that. Something that would give you an exit hole. The 25/06 would be better, and the 6.5s or 7mms would be better yet. That's been my experience anyway.
     
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    There is a not a good round/load for deer in the .223
     
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    My kids have shot several deer with a .223. I believe they've all been with off the shelf Winchester ammo (but I'm not 100% sure). All have been chest shots and all have ran shorter than ones shot with my .308. I think the furthest recovery was 20yds or so.
     
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    I wonder if anyone here who says the 223 is not an appropriate deer cartridge has ever actually used it on deer??
     
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    I am going to go with Catscratch. Even though I feel that it is quite light, I've seen 4 deer shot with them during Missouri youth season and all of them were smoked and went not farther than 20 yards. One was a big bodied 3.5 year old and that needed a 2nd shot though. These were with factory Winchester 64gr deer season xp rounds. No exit wounds but the bullets literally exploded in their vitals and killed them fast. Still not ideal but if it gets my kids in the woods I'm good with it. I myself will stick with my lightfield commander max expansion slugs. They hit like a sledge everytime.


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    Exactly.
    Are there better choices? Sure. But it will certainly work.
    What's better for a recoil sensitive shooter? A 223 they're comfortable shooting or a 300 win mag that gives them a jerky trigger finger?
    Right round for the right situation.
     
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    Beautiful rifle you have. Checkout the Hornady Whitetail 60gr round.
    Should be good with your 1:9 twist 20.5" barrel. I use a 24" 1:8 with this round and it's very accurate and deadly.
     
  12. Drycreek

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    Speaking for myself, I never said it wasn't appropriate, just that it is a varmint round, and I would not (by choice), use it on a deer. I have however shot several hogs with a .223, and will again. My riding around on the golf cart gun is a .223/5.56 AR pistol with a suppressor, but when I hunt hogs, I use one of two 6.8SPCs. Got one for day and one for night. Why ? Because they kill quicker and there's a little more margin for error. I've lost a few hogs with a .223, and a couple with the 6.8, mostly because hogs move a lot, and quickly.

    I shot a large hog once with a 22-250, behind the shoulder because he was 250 yards away, and I couldn't be sure of a head shot. He ran toward me and I shot him between the eyes at about 100 yards and that ended him. A larger, better bullet would have penetrated more and gotten into his vitals. The 22-250 bullet blew up on his shield I suspect. Now, I know a deer has no shield, and is a softer target than a large hog, but if you stray into the shoulder blade on a deer, the .223 is definitely an inferior choice. In my opinion, the .223 for deer is like a .410 for ducks. Can it be done ? Sure, but it's not the best choice.
     
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    It's only a varmint round if you use a "varmint" bullet..........match the bullet to the game, put that bullet in the right place and the result will be a dead deer.

    Deer are just not that hard to kill.....
     
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    I don't want to start a whizzin contest here, but using your logic, a .308 with a good bullet would make a good round to hunt Cape Buffalo.

    Now that I've managed to hijack the OP's thread, for which I apologize, I'm out of this.
     
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    What logic is that???

    Have you ever killed a deer with a .223, or are you just repeating what you have read or heard??

    It has been proven repeatedly that the .223 is perfectly adequate for deer sized game when the appropriate bullet is used......that's not a guess, it is a fact. Not sure what is so difficult to understand about that???

    I have no doubt that a 180 grain solid, fired from a .308, would kill any cape buffalo that has ever walked the earth....provided it is placed in the right spot. Have you ever heard of Karamojo Bell?? He killed over a thousand elephants and hundreds of cape buffalo using a 7x57 (275 Rigby) and a 318 Wesley Richards......
     
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    I would recommend that you take this question to 24hourcampfire.com, in their deer hunting section. Tell them the shaman sent you.

    There are a lot of good deer hunters over there that have hunted with the 223 REM. It is a perfectly viable deer cartridge. As long as you don't try it out too far and make a good shot, the deer falls over just like every other good deer round.

    I've been on 24hourcampfire.com since 2002, and I've seen a huge shift in attitude in 223 REM. 15 years ago, 223 REM on whitetail was considered a stunt. Now, it's pretty much a no-brainer.

    I have been threatening to try it myself. I have the rifle and the load, but every year something comes up. I'm turning 60 this year and it's on my list, but I've got so many deer rifle projects open right now, I may be 75 before I get them all fully tested.
     

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